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GDoggy 02-22-2022 07:34 PM

Early Philadelphia Athletics tickets
 
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I thought I might share some information on early Philadelphia Athletics tickets. I see these on occasion, they have the date, but not the year. I have have been told they all come from the same source.

The A's played at Columbia Park from 1901 to 1908, and then in 1909 they moved to Shibe Park. Note the tickets listed 1909 and after have Shibe Park printed on them.

The 1908's width is different from the '05 to '07 Also, the print is different, best seen in "American League Base Ball Club". Another difference in the 1908 is the t being dropped from 25 ct. I can find no difference in the '05 to '07.

There is a small shift of "Good for ..." to the right going from 1904 to 1905. Credit Bryan Rappoport with the 1904 scan. Would love to see if anyone has an example from 1901 to 1903.

Philadelphia Athletics HoFers from this period ('04 to '13): Eddie Plank, Rube Waddell, Chief Bender, Eddie Collins, Jimmy Collins, Home Run Baker, Stan Coveleski, Herb Pennock

mrreality68 02-23-2022 08:55 AM

Great Stuff

Thanks for sharing

bigfanNY 02-23-2022 09:08 AM

Great Stubs. But you left out one famous player Joe Jackson who came up for 5 games in both 1908 and 1909. August 25th 1908 was his debut game.

Scott Garner 02-23-2022 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GDoggy (Post 2199364)
I thought I might share some information on early Philadelphia Athletics tickets. I see these on occasion, they have the date, but not the year. I have have been told they all come from the same source.

The A's played at Columbia Park from 1901 to 1908, and then in 1909 they moved to Shibe Park. Note the tickets listed 1909 and after have Shibe Park printed on them.

The 1908's width is different from the '05 to '07 Also, the print is different, best seen in "American League Base Ball Club". Another difference in the 1908 is the t being dropped from 25 ct. I can find no difference in the '05 to '07.

There is a small shift of "Good for ..." to the right going from 1904 to 1905. Credit Bryan Rappoport with the 1904 scan. Would love to see if anyone has an example from 1901 to 1903.

Philadelphia Athletics HoFers from this period ('04 to '13): Eddie Plank, Rube Waddell, Chief Bender, Eddie Collins, Jimmy Collins, Home Run Baker, Stan Coveleski, Herb Pennock

Hi Jeff,
Yes, you are correct about all of these originating from one collector.
I would like to add that the same collector had Philadelphia Phillies tickets from the same era and these exhibited the same writing, BTW.

As a collector, I recall when this collection 1st surfaced in the mid-late 1990's.
Background:
Sports hobbyist George Kenigsburg (SP?) RIP that owned the Monterey Bay Sports Museum, was also a dealer and he had quite a number of these for sale at his booth that he had at a baseball card show at the Orange County Fairgrounds in Costa Mesa, CA.
Several of these games had Ruth HR's, Walter Johnson, Eddie Plank, Rube Waddell and Ed Walsh wins, etc.

I have several of these tickets in my personal collection, but none as early as 1903. Also, I do not remember seeing any A's tickets from 1901-1903 in this collection.
It should be noted that this collection seemed to run until 1918-1920, then seemed to stop.

I appreciate some of the notable differences on some of the different years within this collection that you mentioned as this was new to me.

Anyway, nice post and I wish I could provide an older exemplar or two, but unfortunately can't... :cool:

Here are a few of the tickets from this collection that I own:
Early HOF Rube Waddell win from his career year in 1904 (A's ticket), HOF Ed Walsh win (A's ticket), HOF Grover Cleveland Alexander win (Phillies ticket), HOF Christy Mathewson win (Phillies ticket), No-hit pitcher Jeff Tesreau win (Phillies ticket)

rholmes 02-23-2022 01:51 PM

Good info, Jeff and Scott. I've tracked these A's tickets a bit over the years, see what I put together below. One other print difference I've found is that on the 1908 tickets, re the "Not good if Legal..." wording, if and legal are run together as one world, "iflegal." This is only found on the 1908 tickets. Note that only the Sept 9, 1908 ticket is mine. It is attached to a scrapbook page with date notation and that the game was Phila vs NY. This date was part of the stretch of five games that Joe Jackson played with the Athletics at the end of the 1908 season, and in this game he got his 2nd career hit (his first came on August 25).

Click through for larger image:

https://i.ibb.co/mRwxjCh/Phila-AL-tix-1904-1911.jpg

rholmes 02-23-2022 02:07 PM

I wanted to add, I don't think this style ticket (1904-early teens) was in use prior to 1904. See this from the The Philadelphia Inquirer, April 21, 1904:

https://i.ibb.co/pw25WQm/The-Philade...904-re-tix.jpg

phlflyer1 02-23-2022 04:54 PM

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Great information, thanks to all who've shared/posted in the thread!

I believe I have one of the Phillies tickets from this collection from a pre-season exhibition game in 1907.

Scott Garner 02-24-2022 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by phlflyer1 (Post 2199616)
Great information, thanks to all who've shared/posted in the thread!

I believe I have one of the Phillies tickets from this collection from a pre-season exhibition game in 1907.

Scott,
You may want to consider that your exhibition Phillies ticket may originate from a different patron.
The info and date written info seem to be scrawled by a different hand IMHO. Cursive writing vs. block printing, different slant etc.

phlflyer1 02-24-2022 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Garner (Post 2199732)
Scott,
You may want to consider that your exhibition Phillies ticket may originate from a different patron.
The info and date written info seem to be scrawled by a different hand IMHO. Cursive writing vs. block printing, different slant etc.

Hi Scott,

After seeing your comment and looking a bit more closely at my ticket, I believe you are correct that the handwriting appears to be different and likely originated from a different collection.

Didn't matter to me either way. It just looked familiar when I saw the initial post and thought my example looked similar.

tiger8mush 02-24-2022 12:26 PM

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Great info, thanks everyone for sharing!

Picked these up a while ago on the b/s/t. Looks like the 1908 comes from the same collection you guys have posted. The 2nd is in cursive, like Scott's example.

GDoggy 02-25-2022 01:42 PM

1903 to 1915 Philadelphia Athletics tickets
 
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A buddy of mine collects Cy Young tickets, and has a 1903, which confirms the news article in Post #6 from Ray (Thanks Ray). Even if you do not believe the date written, it is definitely a 1901 to 1903 A's ticket given the Address & Manager.

Also, adding an example of a Upper Pavilion ticket. Note the added "Exchange - 25c." This ticket happens to be from a game that saw three of the early great pitchers: Chief Bender, Addie Joss & Cy Young

Looks like by 1915, the ticket style changed here: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...ibe-1843036626

Also noticed, is that in 1911 they outside edges were clipped.

What would be great is if someone had a 1912 & a 1914 to show. A few other examples would also be great, especially if there is some variation to what has already been shown.


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