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Leon 02-13-2022 10:12 AM

dw293060 Scammer / Troll... Be Smart
 
So this id registered, actually crawled under the crack in the door 2 days ago, and has 0 posts. Yet a member sent him money, per a PM today, a day or two ago with no references or checking with me or anything. Really? 0 posts and registered 1 day ago? You folks have to be smarter than this. I hate to keep talking about it but unfortunately members are still getting taken. I am not sure what to say BUT always check with me on a low post count or new member when doing a deal. I can at least pick up the phone and have a chat....and as for this one, there is no registration info of course. Please be careful. Just because they are on the BST doesn't mean they aren't a scammer.

Even Carey looks kind of flabbergasted.

https://luckeycards.com/d327.jpg

Foo3112 02-13-2022 10:20 AM

Leon, just a thought - but perhaps you can do something like "verified member" or a little green check mark next to their name. Something that will show without doubt that that person can be trusted and has had zero issues. Perhaps newer members can have yellow which would show more like "caution" to imply that they are new or have not done enough deals yet.

Leon 02-13-2022 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Foo3112 (Post 2196504)
Leon, just a thought - but perhaps you can do something like "verified member" or a little green check mark next to their name. Something that will show without doubt that that person can be trusted and has had zero issues. Perhaps newer members can have yellow which would show more like "caution" to imply that they are new or have not done enough deals yet.

That sounds like a management nightmare without the s/w to do it. And I don't think this version of Vbulletin can do it. And the upgrade would be a large situation. The forum has been cruising for over 20 yrs. No matter what is in place someone can get scammed. Members just need to be smart or they will learn the hard way. One can't blindly do things involving money. I generally answer pm's very quickly.
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JimC 02-13-2022 10:28 AM

Leon, perhaps Max has that look on his face because he's searching for a new home just sayin . . .

jingram058 02-13-2022 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JimC (Post 2196512)
Leon, perhaps Max has that look on his face because he's searching for a new home just sayin . . .

You know what? I love this forum, including the B/S/Ts. I will be the first to admit I am not playing with all 52, but why not take Leon's advice here?

Jim65 02-13-2022 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Foo3112 (Post 2196504)
Leon, just a thought - but perhaps you can do something like "verified member" or a little green check mark next to their name. Something that will show without doubt that that person can be trusted and has had zero issues. Perhaps newer members can have yellow which would show more like "caution" to imply that they are new or have not done enough deals yet.

I've been on forums where longtime members have gone bad. It happens. Green checkmarks or whatever will not change that.

Protecting yourself is your responsibility, not anyone else's

mrreality68 02-13-2022 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim65 (Post 2196570)
I've been on forums where longtime members have gone bad. It happens. Green checkmarks or whatever will not change that.

Protecting yourself is your responsibility, not anyone else's

Agreed and all we can do is try our best and use the resources one this forum as best we can

But overall had so many great experiences here

Smarti5051 02-13-2022 12:21 PM

As a newbie that recently completed three F&F purchases on the site (all went amazingly well), it is a little challenging figuring out when you can trust another member you don't know anything about. But, what worked for me was to search prior posts by those users. If they have a history of selling valuable cards more than a month ago (ie they sold a Jackie Robinson for $4000 in December), then I figure they must have followed through or there would be some evidence in the subsequent posts that things went awry. If you can't find any older history of the member selling successfully on site, I think any honest member would find it reasonable to not request F&F to pay.

swarmee 02-13-2022 01:37 PM

Remember, F&F is for people who are friends or family to gift each other money. Using it other ways has gotten people locked out of their PayPal accounts, and all their funds confiscated for violations of TOS. I expect it to get even worse this year with the additional 1099 reporting requirements from the IRS.

Is that really worth the 3% fee you pay for Goods and Services?

Leon 02-13-2022 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JimC (Post 2196512)
Leon, perhaps Max has that look on his face because he's searching for a new home just sayin . . .

His home is in my type collection :)

And a card. We don't see enough 19th century stuff around here!

https://luckeycards.com/mini.jpg

doug.goodman 02-13-2022 01:43 PM

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Peter_Spaeth 02-13-2022 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim65 (Post 2196570)
I've been on forums where longtime members have gone bad. It happens. Green checkmarks or whatever will not change that.

Protecting yourself is your responsibility, not anyone else's

The first rule of buying is caveat emptor. The second rule is don't forget the first rule.

Tabe 02-13-2022 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 2196602)
Remember, F&F is for people who are friends or family to gift each other money. Using it other ways has gotten people locked out of their PayPal accounts, and all their funds confiscated for violations of TOS. I expect it to get even worse this year with the additional 1099 reporting requirements from the IRS.

Is that really worth the 3% fee you pay for Goods and Services?

It also removes all buyer protections since, by using it, you're telling PayPal you're not buying anything.

rugbymarine 02-13-2022 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Smarti5051 (Post 2196576)
As a newbie that recently completed three F&F purchases on the site (all went amazingly well), it is a little challenging figuring out when you can trust another member you don't know anything about. But, what worked for me was to search prior posts by those users. If they have a history of selling valuable cards more than a month ago (ie they sold a Jackie Robinson for $4000 in December), then I figure they must have followed through or there would be some evidence in the subsequent posts that things went awry. If you can't find any older history of the member selling successfully on site, I think any honest member would find it reasonable to not request F&F to pay.

THIS!

A dozen mouse clicks can probably give you 98% confidence that the person is (or is not) legit. If that doesn't work, send a PM. Either to Leon, or to someone who they had completed a deal with. I employ this strategy on card-collecting FB groups as well. FB groups make me way more nervous. If I'm interested in something, I search any past transactions and send out as many private messages as I need to to feel better about sending money to a stranger. "Hey how was this transaction?"..."Did they package well?"..."Did they communicate in the time between you sending $$ and the card arriving?"

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2196609)
The first rule of buying is caveat emptor. The second rule is don't forget the first rule.

I like this!

"Third rule: You idiot!...There's only two rules! Read them again"
LoL

bmattioli 02-13-2022 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2196609)
The first rule of buying is caveat emptor. The second rule is don't forget the first rule.

PayPal Goods and Services.. absolutely NO Friends and Family..

Leon 02-16-2022 11:22 AM

Another scammer today over on the BST...no posts and registered in the last 2 days. It seems they are almost daily now....Yawl be real careful and please keep pm'ing me.
thanks
This one was achor4860
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