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benge610 12-04-2021 07:53 PM

FS: 1910 E104-1 Nadja Ad Back; Harry Krause A's PSA 1.5 (SOLD)
 
Open to offer discussion.

This is an E104-1 Nadja Caramels card of Harry Krause; pitcher for the World Champion, Philadelphia A's. It has a Nadja Ad Back; NOT a blank.
No, it does not have the "World Champions" overprint on the front.
Then again, ALL of those have been found with a blank back; and of course those who dig into this kinda stuff, surmise that these "World Champions" overprints would have been regionally distributed to the Philadelphia market.

It is also general consensus that the blank backs of all players (not just A's) were nationally distributed.

Which brings us back to Mr. Krause here with a Nadja ad back.
It is reasonable to state that this also would have been originally distributed to the Philadelphia market, in their product. The Nadja back, A's have been charted by our Pete Calderon on his "Caramel-Cards.com" page. copy attached. Note that only 5 have been found; far right column.

I welcome offer discussions here (PM preferred).
Free shipping and insurance.
Paypal FF or Venmo is OK.



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Leon 12-04-2021 09:48 PM

It might help if you could post a larger pic or send it to me and I can do it for you....

Luke 12-04-2021 11:47 PM

300

benge610 12-05-2021 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2171309)
It might help if you could post a larger pic or send it to me and I can do it for you....

Thank you Leon; I have to dumb-down the resolution (150x100) to get my pics to upload to the platform. Can I email them to you?
I lost your email address; mine is bengehler5@gmail.com.

benge610 12-05-2021 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benge610 (Post 2171325)
Thank you Leon; I have to dumb-down the resolution (150x100) to get my pics to upload to the platform. Can I email them to you?
I lost your email address; mine is bengehler5@gmail.com.

Yay!
I figured it out!
Thanks Leon for the offer!
Ben

benge610 12-14-2021 04:34 PM

Added pop report bump.

Leon 12-15-2021 10:23 AM

BTW, on this card, Blanke Wenneker made he Nadja Caramels, and ads, for cards. And since they were from St. Louis, it seems reasonable they could have been distributed there also, unless there is more provenance I am unaware of (and there easily could be). GLWTS...nice card..

benge610 12-15-2021 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2175219)
BTW, on this card, Blanke Wenneker made he Nadja Caramels, and ads, for cards. And since they were from St. Louis, it seems reasonable they could have been distributed there also, unless there is more provenance I am unaware of (and there easily could be). GLWTS...nice card..

Thank you Leon for the input. I so, love the thrill of the hunt; digging for info, discovering, assembling puzzle pieces, etc.
I like to brainstorm, like I was a fly on the wall; when decisions would have been made; regarding the subjects and product distribution.

I find it interesting that;
Vic Willis - 1910 STL (NL)
Bill Abstein 1910 STB (AL)
were the only E104 subjects, actively playing in the St. Louis area while the caramels were on sale.

With E104-1 dedicated to Phila. (AL) and E104-2 dedicated to Pitt. (NL); I also find interesting that the majority of E104-3 subjects came from the Det. (AL) and NY ( NL) teams; along with the Phila. (NL) subjects. I viewed these decisions as "contenders" for the eventual 'World Champions' tag line. If blank backs of all subjects were nationally distributed with product; they retain a stack of the "contenders" on their shelves; WS winner determines the tag line overprint and regional distribution to the winning market. The Phila. (NL) subjects, I viewed as a regional decision again; having Nadja Ad backs.

Back to the "Wenneker", St. Louis connection; wouldn't it be cool if Goodwin, for ex. unearths boxes of Nadja Caramels; from an attic in an estate sale; and find Ad backs of other guys? besides Abstein and Willis?

All theories are welcome. Every puzzle piece helps to create a clearer picture.

Ben

benge610 12-31-2021 06:37 PM

bump


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