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todeen 11-17-2021 10:43 PM
52 Mantle Printing Plates? Authentic?
 
This came up on Twitter, that someone is looking for answers about 52 Topps Mantle Printing Plates. He said what he owns is similar to what's posted on ebay. Sorry for outing a ebay listing.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Topps-1953-...-127632-2357-0https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...7980c53b25.jpg

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G1911 11-17-2021 10:48 PM
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I'm going to go out on a limb and:

todeen 11-17-2021 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2165329)
I'm going to go out on a limb and:
I figured the experts on this site would be able to identify the item, even if it's a hoax. I can't believe how many people on this site know history of fraud cards. As a Reds fan, I learned a lot on this site about the fake Pete Rose RC.

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irv 11-18-2021 04:42 AM
:D

hcv123 11-18-2021 07:53 AM
Highly questionable
 
So under "condition" he writes:

“This Topps printing plate came from the Mr Mint Alan Rosen estate sale . I was a good friend to Al . Al had this plate for years from the Topps Company in Brooklyn .Al was the master in finding rare Topps items.This plate is tin metal and its in excellent condition,blank on the back.”

Then in the listing he writes:

"This printing plate is from the Mr Mint Alan Rosen .I will combine shipping on all items."

Anyone else know about or confirm a "Mr. Mint Estate sale"? His grammatical skills could be better.

That said as far as I knew (I DID NOT know Alan well) Alan was about turnover - he never kept anything?

The only thing that gives me pause is the fact that the seller is on Ebay since 1998 with almost 15K feedback.

steve B 11-18-2021 12:54 PM
The 1953 "plate" from Ebay is not an actual production piece from a card.

By color, it should be the black plate, but the name box, and the laces on the ball in the team logo were in red. Especially the laces, where it's obvious no black was used at all.

It might be a plate from somewhere the card image was reproduced in a book in black and white, but even for that the quality seems very low.

steve B 11-18-2021 12:55 PM
A potential 52 plate I'd have to see a decent pic.
If the back has both colors included you can be sure it's fake.

swarmee 11-18-2021 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by steve B (Post 2165544)
By color, it should be the black plate, but the name box, and the laces on the ball in the team logo were in red. Especially the laces, where it's obvious no black was used at all.
Yep, that's the easy tell I saw as well.

Aquarian Sports Cards 11-18-2021 02:57 PM
I can ask Dave Czuba who was Rosen's running buddy for years, He'd know if the story is BS.

Eric72 11-19-2021 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hcv123 (Post 2165410)

...in the listing he writes:

"This printing plate is from the Mr Mint Alan Rosen .I will combine shipping on all items."
So, if I purchase this - and - the Chucky doll with a bag on its head...

todeen 11-19-2021 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 2165937)
So, if I purchase this - and - the Chucky doll with a bag on its head...
Then you get a 1 of 1 nightmare

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Gary Dunaier 11-20-2021 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by steve B (Post 2165547)
A potential 52 plate I'd have to see a decent pic.
Do printing plates from any 1952 Topps baseball card exist?

todeen 11-21-2021 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Gary Dunaier (Post 2166444)
Do printing plates from any 1952 Topps baseball card exist?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 2165937)
So, if I purchase this - and - the Chucky doll with a bag on its head...
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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2165590)
I can ask Dave Czuba who was Rosen's running buddy for years, He'd know if the story is BS.
Quote:
Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 2165576)
Yep, that's the easy tell I saw as well.
Quote:
Originally Posted by steve B (Post 2165547)
A potential 52 plate I'd have to see a decent pic.
If the back has both colors included you can be sure it's fake.
Quote:
Originally Posted by steve B (Post 2165544)
The 1953 "plate" from Ebay is not an actual production piece from a card.

By color, it should be the black plate, but the name box, and the laces on the ball in the team logo were in red. Especially the laces, where it's obvious no black was used at all.

It might be a plate from somewhere the card image was reproduced in a book in black and white, but even for that the quality seems very low.
Quote:
Originally Posted by hcv123 (Post 2165410)
So under "condition" he writes:

“This Topps printing plate came from the Mr Mint Alan Rosen estate sale . I was a good friend to Al . Al had this plate for years from the Topps Company in Brooklyn .Al was the master in finding rare Topps items.This plate is tin metal and its in excellent condition,blank on the back.”

Then in the listing he writes:

"This printing plate is from the Mr Mint Alan Rosen .I will combine shipping on all items."

Anyone else know about or confirm a "Mr. Mint Estate sale"? His grammatical skills could be better.

That said as far as I knew (I DID NOT know Alan well) Alan was about turnover - he never kept anything?

The only thing that gives me pause is the fact that the seller is on Ebay since 1998 with almost 15K feedback.
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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2165351)
:D
Quote:
Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2165329)
I'm going to go out on a limb and:
Here is the update from the guy on Twitter. It looks like film to me.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...645ad56b3a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...f857c68d70.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...2ce03d1c82.jpg

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