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Shoeless Moe 10-30-2021 09:33 PM

Uh oh - Return or Don't Return - that is the "new" question
 
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NiceDocter 10-30-2021 09:55 PM

Leave it
 
I vote for no restore but maybe frame with the top and bottom edges at 2 1/2 and 20..... would look pretty uniform and vintage then. Would have to find a way to do that without cutting or damaging the rest however. You can experiment by laying some some black paper at those levels to see what it would look like! Very cool piece!

NiceDocter 10-30-2021 10:00 PM

Better check this out
 
I Googled up the calendar for January 1896 and it doesnt match up.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Janu...hrome&ie=UTF-8

Michael B 10-31-2021 01:54 AM

A few alarm bells go off for me. The staples are brand new. It looks like the words were filled in with watercolor. It is very noticeable in the word ‘Guide’ and below in ‘For Sale here’. The apostrophe is missing between the h and s in Reachs. They did spell it Reach’s on the cover of their guides. See http://www.seanlahman.com/2014/08/20...-guides/#Reach. The 96 in the date is poorly drawn and not the same scale as the ‘18’. They should be on the same curve, but the 6 is much higher. Those numbers are also different styles. The nine looks like a g. That type of 9 is difficult to draw/write if you haven’t done it regularly.

The ‘For Sale here’ is very poorly drawn. The frame line has inconsistent widths. The black paint in the words ‘For Sale here’ is smeared across the red background. The two end designs are completely different from each other. If they capitalize ‘For’ and ‘Sale’ they would have also capitalized ‘here’. This was a professional publication and as such they would have used a quality printer. My opinion is that it is a pathetic fake.

mrreality68 10-31-2021 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by NiceDocter (Post 2159001)
I Googled up the calendar for January 1896 and it doesnt match up.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Janu...hrome&ie=UTF-8

Great Detective Work Rocky.

I would never have thought about checking that.

Bud sadly Rocky is right and the Month's dates listed on that do not match up with reality.

As well as the issues Michael points out

I actually like the look but it does not seem authentic.

Shoeless Moe 10-31-2021 09:58 AM

The tribe has spoken.

Return.

Thank you all!

Bestdj777 11-01-2021 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2159095)
The tribe has spoken.

Return.

Thank you all!

For what it’s worth, it looks good to me—meaning I would have bought this and been mistaken as well, not meaning that it’s authentic. So, I like to think you are in good company.

jerseygary 11-01-2021 08:28 AM

It looks like for "JANUARY" they used the typeface Helvetica or one of the ones that came after it was first produced in 1957.

God help us if forgers finally learn typographic history!

Great idea to look up to see if the dates matchup on a real 1896 calendar and good catch on the "Reachs" as opposed to "Reach's"

mrreality68 11-01-2021 08:56 AM

I still like the look and depending if you did not pay to much for it I would keep it

Shoeless Moe 11-01-2021 09:46 AM

Thanks all.


Paid $200, but set to return later this week. If someone wants for $200 let me know, it's yours.

mrreality68 11-01-2021 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2159387)
Thanks all.


Paid $200, but set to return later this week. If someone wants for $200 let me know, it's yours.

Agreed for that amount it would be a return

D. Bergin 11-02-2021 04:41 PM

Yeah, I wouldn't call it a fake. More of a Fantasy piece or "a work of art".

At $200, it's also a Fantasy price. :D

antiquebaseballuniforms 11-06-2021 01:39 PM

Ken wel fake
 
Here we go again:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-LIT...-127632-2357-0

Shoeless Moe 11-06-2021 01:50 PM

I know. First the Ty Cobb clocks, now the "vintage" calendars.

Seeing a whole new breed of fake items.

Aquarian Sports Cards 11-06-2021 02:00 PM

It looks like a hand done piece. I admire it for what it is, but it just looked too crisp to be vintage.

For $35 the one on ebay doesn't have to be legit to be enjoyed. Of course for a BIN of $35 he knows damn well it's fake.

mrreality68 11-06-2021 02:14 PM

Unfortunately there are people out there trying to make money by scamming others.

It is tougher because not everyone has the knowledge or resources like this forum.

Wish there was a way for eBay to police this better

jerseygary 11-06-2021 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by antiquebaseballuniforms (Post 2161301)

1957 Helvetica typeface again

SteveS 11-06-2021 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2161309)
It looks like a hand done piece. I admire it for what it is, but it just looked too crisp to be vintage.

For $35 the one on ebay doesn't have to be legit to be enjoyed. Of course for a BIN of $35 he knows damn well it's fake.

It says "reproduction" in the item description.

BobC 11-06-2021 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveS (Post 2161420)
It says "reproduction" in the item description.

It doesn't matter because sellers are still deceptive about things like that sometimes. They should be up front and clearly say/show it is a fantasy piece or modern reproduction, not sort of hide that important fact by leaving it inconspicuously in the "fine print" of the description.

bigfanNY 11-08-2021 12:33 PM

Well First and Formost Buyer Beware. Second 1921 Lou Gehrig glove? If that doesn't set off bells it is NOT the fault of the seller.

mrreality68 11-08-2021 12:59 PM

Unfortunately it is and always will be as it is.

Shoeless Moe 11-09-2021 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bigfanNY (Post 2161954)
Well First and Formost Buyer Beware. Second 1921 Lou Gehrig glove? If that doesn't set off bells it is NOT the fault of the seller.

That's hilarious, I didn't even notice that.


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