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Snapolit1 08-23-2021 06:19 PM

Why no "What did you get in Heritage last night" threads
 
They have insane auctions, yet I never see the excitement on the board, before or after, that you see for REA. Any idea why? Just curious as to anyone's theory.

Casey2296 08-23-2021 06:33 PM

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Strong prices on some great cards. Happy to pick this one up.
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NYYFan63 08-23-2021 06:45 PM

I picked up one of the 48 Leaf Jackie SGC 1.5…


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Peter_Spaeth 08-23-2021 06:50 PM

REA is sacred, Heritage is just a business.

tkd 08-23-2021 06:53 PM

Congrats to whoever won the Haffner's bread Babe Ruth. Awesome card!

riggs336 08-23-2021 06:55 PM

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I was very pleased to get this Matty.

ValKehl 08-23-2021 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2137591)
REA is sacred, Heritage is just a business.

+1. Good one, Peter!

Mark17 08-23-2021 07:00 PM

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I won the George Crowe 1953 Milwaukee Braves GU jersey.

Braves shirts of that era are probably my favorite design of all time, '53 was their first year in Milwaukee, the shirt is in all original condition, close to 70 years old, and the player was a very nice, highly respected, and intelligent fellow, a great natural athlete, and instrumental in the integration movement. For under $2100 I thought it was a steal. Excerpts from the SABR article on him:

George Crowe was Indiana’s first Mr. Basketball and became a “Big Daddy” to early black players in major league baseball. “Crowe was the most articulate and far-sighted Negro then in the majors,” Jackie Robinson wrote. “Young Negroes turned to him for advice.”

He tried out for the Los Angeles Red Devils, a touring basketball team, and made the squad. He played forward opposite Jackie Robinson, who had just finished his first year in white baseball at Montreal. Future major leaguer Irv Noren was in the backcourt. When the Devils went broke after a few months, Crowe joined the New York Rens, a storied black basketball power since the 1920s. The team was originally known as the Harlem Renaissance Five because they played at the Renaissance Ballroom in Harlem. He said, “The Harlem Globetrotters got the publicity, but the Rens had the team.”

Baseball was Crowe’s year-round job during the 1950s. He barnstormed in the fall with teams headlined by Roy Campanella and Willie Mays, then moved on to the Caribbean during the winter. In the 1954-1955 season he played for Santurce, Puerto Rico, on one of the strongest winter league teams in history. The outfield included Mays, 20-year-old Roberto Clemente, and Negro League veteran Bob Thurman. Don Zimmer played shortstop, Negro League star Bus Clarkson was at third, and Sam Jones and local hero Ruben Gomez led the pitching staff.

Wherever he went, Crowe was the acknowledged leader of the African American players, most of them much younger than he. Vada Pinson, a rookie with Cincinnati in 1958, said Crowe “took me right under his wing. He came up to me and said, ‘If there are any problems, you come to me. I’m your father, your big daddy up here.’” Bob Gibson remembered that Crowe “was more like a dad and teacher than teammate, and most of what he counseled me on had nothing to do with playing the game.”

Crowe told Sports Illustrated’s Robert Boyle, “I like to see everybody keep their nose clean. And when you have fellows who are coming along who are new to this, I’m glad to give guidance.” He watched out for young black men no matter what uniform they wore: “If I knew a kid coming up with the Braves, I’d say to [Bill] Bruton, ‘Look out for this kid. Show him the places to eat. Don’t leave him stand in the hotel. Take him to the movies. Find out what he likes to do.’ “

Bill White said Crowe “was a very wise fellow who’d been through it all and, in the background, he led us in the integration movement [of spring training cities] in Florida before the Civil Rights Act.” In 1961, when Crowe was entering his final season, black Cardinals players seethed when their white teammates were invited to a Chamber of Commerce breakfast at a whites-only hotel in St. Petersburg. The next spring the team rented a motel where all the players and their families could stay together. Decades later Crowe reflected on the racism he had endured: “Even though you wanted to put it aside, you couldn’t. It couldn’t be put aside. Putting it aside was doing your best to ignore it, and that wasn’t easy, either. That’s what you had to do. You had to play through it.”

Crowe commanded respect from white teammates as well. By popular consent, he served as the judge of the Cardinals’ kangaroo court, meting out small fines for offenses such as missing the team bus or missing the cutoff man. He impressed Musial with how hard he worked to stay in shape. He told Musial, “The more time you spend on the bench the harder you’ve got to work to be ready when you’re called.”

mrreality68 08-23-2021 07:04 PM

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Not sure why a thread is not started for Heritage.

Did not even think of starting one.

I won the 1917 Boston Store Joe Jackson to go along with my 1917 CM Joe Jackson

MattyC 08-23-2021 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 2137571)
They have insane auctions, yet I never see the excitement on the board, before or after, that you see for REA. Any idea why? Just curious as to anyone's theory.

I think there's no thread or general excitement because these days you need to be a billionaire to collect the kind of cards that the AH's list.

Casey2296 08-23-2021 07:10 PM

Beautiful jersey Mark.
Jeff, as soon as I saw that lot I just assumed it was going in your collection.
Congrats to you both.

Snapolit1 08-23-2021 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2137591)
REA is sacred, Heritage is just a business.

Yeah, thought of that. Heritage sells all kinds of things. Maybe too corporate looking for some tastes.

Snapolit1 08-23-2021 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mrreality68 (Post 2137600)
Not sure why a thread is not started for Heritage.

Did not even think of starting one.

I won the 1917 Boston Store Joe Jackson to go along with my 1917 CM Joe Jackson

That’s amazing.

ezez420 08-23-2021 07:26 PM

If that Jackson was a little nicer I would have been a contender. Very strong money for a 1.5 but good luck with it. I settled for the CJ Gandil SGC 9.




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mrreality68 08-23-2021 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ezez420 (Post 2137612)
If that Jackson was a little nicer I would have been a contender. Very strong money for a 1.5 but good luck with it. I settled for the CJ Gandil SGC 9.




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Hi

I am happy with it.

I agree I would have preferred one with a nicer look but they are low population and they do not come up often, Let alone the higher grade ones.

Perhaps I paid up slightly for it but it is what I had to pay to beat out others for it.

If I am lucky enough in the future to upgrade it I will.

Regardless I am comfortable and happy to make this my 8th Joe Jackson card in my collection.

By the way I agree you got a very nice CJ Gandil with great eye appeal. Congrats

BobbyStrawberry 08-23-2021 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by riggs336 (Post 2137594)
I was very pleased to get this Matty.

Very nice! I expected that to go for more.

Casey2296 08-23-2021 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MattyC (Post 2137603)
I think there's no thread or general excitement because these days you need to be a billionaire to collect the kind of cards that the AH's list.

I disagree. There are plenty of fantastic pre and post war cards available at AH's for less than 1k or even less than 100 bucks. I find fantastic deals in the weekly AH offerings like the Heritage Sunday night auctions.

Rhotchkiss 08-23-2021 08:03 PM

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I picked this up.

chriskim 08-23-2021 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2137634)
I picked this up.

What a beauty Jackson! Congrats!

Casey2296 08-23-2021 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2137634)
I picked this up.

Monster card and congratulations Ryan. Well bought imo and will be the next card to hit 1mil.

bnorth 08-23-2021 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2137634)
I picked this up.

Congratulations that is an awesome card.

mrreality68 08-23-2021 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2137639)
Monster card and congratulations Ryan. Well bought imo and will be the next card to hit 1mil.

+1 Agreed

Monster Card, Great Eye Appeal, Low Population, Famous Player

Equals Great Pickup

Congrats Ryan

maniac_73 08-23-2021 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ezez420 (Post 2137612)
If that Jackson was a little nicer I would have been a contender. Very strong money for a 1.5 but good luck with it. I settled for the CJ Gandil SGC 9.




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Why the need to crap all over his purchase?

Casey2296 08-23-2021 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by maniac_73 (Post 2137646)
Why the need to crap all over his purchase?

That's who he is as a person. Expensive psychoanalysis to follow...

Rhotchkiss 08-23-2021 08:26 PM

Thanks guys. And Phil, Jeff, Ed, etc. great pickups back at ya.

MattyC 08-23-2021 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2137631)
I disagree. There are plenty of fantastic pre and post war cards available at AH's for less than 1k or even less than 100 bucks. I find fantastic deals in the weekly AH offerings like the Heritage Sunday night auctions.

I will def take a look at the weeklies, admittedly have not browsed those. My experience since 2020 has been it doesn't matter if I bid 10k or 100k— prices across the board have just skyrocketed beyond the reach of all but the .1%, primarily due to a nasty brew of unsavory ingredients well documented on every chatroom.

Casey2296 08-23-2021 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MattyC (Post 2137654)
I will def take a look at the weeklies, admittedly have not browsed those. My experience since 2020 has been it doesn't matter if I bid 10k or 100k— prices across the board have just skyrocketed beyond the reach of all but the .1%, primarily due to a nasty brew of unsavory ingredients well documented on every chatroom.

I missed out on a perfectly centered 1973 Reggie Jackson the other night. Final bid was $78, just as bummed as missing out on a 5k card.

tkd 08-23-2021 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mrreality68 (Post 2137600)
Not sure why a thread is not started for Heritage.

Did not even think of starting one.

I won the 1917 Boston Store Joe Jackson to go along with my 1917 CM Joe Jackson

Nice Card! I've always liked that pose. Good idea to pick up those rare cards when you can. Not sure when another will come around again.

doug.goodman 08-23-2021 09:34 PM

I had a fantasy about the group of signed snapshots, but it went for well beyond my budget. Congrats to whoever picked it up, and let me know if you're planning on getting rid of any (probably most?) of them.

Doug

atx840 08-23-2021 09:36 PM

Congrats Ryan, beautiful example. :eek:

tbob 08-23-2021 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2137583)
Strong prices on some great cards. Happy to pick this one up.
_

Great card. Speaking from experience I can tell you the olive green E94 Young is not an easy card to come by. Congrats!

Casey2296 08-23-2021 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tbob (Post 2137680)
Great card. Speaking from experience I can tell you the olive green E94 Young is not an easy card to come by. Congrats!

Thanks Bob, such a tough set to go after, especially nowadays.

glchen 08-23-2021 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2137634)
I picked this up.

Wow, Ryan, great pickup!

BeanTown 08-23-2021 11:03 PM

Great HA pickups and Ryan stop buying my dream cards and Jeff you got a steal on that Boston store Jax. Can y’all plant a money tree at my house please.

fkm_bky 08-24-2021 06:52 AM

Some amazing pick ups gents! Congratulations! I struck out but that’s nothing new 😂.

Bill

mrreality68 08-24-2021 07:01 AM

Thanks everyone for your support and kind words on the Boston Store Joe Jackson.

I Love my collection as I am sure most people on this forum loves their collection.

I Like this Card and Happy To Have This Card

I have 8 Jacksons and hope in the future (long distant future) to have over 20 quality Jacksons in this collection

Unless I Lose my focus or something else I like that is pre 1925 and Rare comes along. :D:D:D:D:D:D

Jeff_cvc 08-24-2021 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrreality68 (Post 2137743)
Thanks everyone for your support and kind words on the Boston Store Joe Jackson.

I Love my collection as I am sure most people on this forum loves their collection.

I Like this Card and Happy To Have This Card

I have 8 Jacksons and hope in the future (long distant future) to have over 20 quality Jacksons in this collection

Unless I Lose my focus or something else I like that is pre 1925 and Rare comes along. :D:D:D:D:D:D


Congratulations Jeff on your great addition to an already awesome Jackson collection!

jingram058 08-24-2021 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark17 (Post 2137599)
I won the George Crowe 1953 Milwaukee Braves GU jersey.

Braves shirts of that era are probably my favorite design of all time, '53 was their first year in Milwaukee, the shirt is in all original condition, close to 70 years old, and the player was a very nice, highly respected, and intelligent fellow, a great natural athlete, and instrumental in the integration movement. For under $2100 I thought it was a steal. Excerpts from the SABR article on him:

George Crowe was Indiana’s first Mr. Basketball and became a “Big Daddy” to early black players in major league baseball. “Crowe was the most articulate and far-sighted Negro then in the majors,” Jackie Robinson wrote. “Young Negroes turned to him for advice.”

He tried out for the Los Angeles Red Devils, a touring basketball team, and made the squad. He played forward opposite Jackie Robinson, who had just finished his first year in white baseball at Montreal. Future major leaguer Irv Noren was in the backcourt. When the Devils went broke after a few months, Crowe joined the New York Rens, a storied black basketball power since the 1920s. The team was originally known as the Harlem Renaissance Five because they played at the Renaissance Ballroom in Harlem. He said, “The Harlem Globetrotters got the publicity, but the Rens had the team.”

Baseball was Crowe’s year-round job during the 1950s. He barnstormed in the fall with teams headlined by Roy Campanella and Willie Mays, then moved on to the Caribbean during the winter. In the 1954-1955 season he played for Santurce, Puerto Rico, on one of the strongest winter league teams in history. The outfield included Mays, 20-year-old Roberto Clemente, and Negro League veteran Bob Thurman. Don Zimmer played shortstop, Negro League star Bus Clarkson was at third, and Sam Jones and local hero Ruben Gomez led the pitching staff.

Wherever he went, Crowe was the acknowledged leader of the African American players, most of them much younger than he. Vada Pinson, a rookie with Cincinnati in 1958, said Crowe “took me right under his wing. He came up to me and said, ‘If there are any problems, you come to me. I’m your father, your big daddy up here.’” Bob Gibson remembered that Crowe “was more like a dad and teacher than teammate, and most of what he counseled me on had nothing to do with playing the game.”

Crowe told Sports Illustrated’s Robert Boyle, “I like to see everybody keep their nose clean. And when you have fellows who are coming along who are new to this, I’m glad to give guidance.” He watched out for young black men no matter what uniform they wore: “If I knew a kid coming up with the Braves, I’d say to [Bill] Bruton, ‘Look out for this kid. Show him the places to eat. Don’t leave him stand in the hotel. Take him to the movies. Find out what he likes to do.’ “

Bill White said Crowe “was a very wise fellow who’d been through it all and, in the background, he led us in the integration movement [of spring training cities] in Florida before the Civil Rights Act.” In 1961, when Crowe was entering his final season, black Cardinals players seethed when their white teammates were invited to a Chamber of Commerce breakfast at a whites-only hotel in St. Petersburg. The next spring the team rented a motel where all the players and their families could stay together. Decades later Crowe reflected on the racism he had endured: “Even though you wanted to put it aside, you couldn’t. It couldn’t be put aside. Putting it aside was doing your best to ignore it, and that wasn’t easy, either. That’s what you had to do. You had to play through it.”

Crowe commanded respect from white teammates as well. By popular consent, he served as the judge of the Cardinals’ kangaroo court, meting out small fines for offenses such as missing the team bus or missing the cutoff man. He impressed Musial with how hard he worked to stay in shape. He told Musial, “The more time you spend on the bench the harder you’ve got to work to be ready when you’re called.”


You are right, that is a beautiful jersey, and a fantastic story behind it. Congratulations on an awesome pick up!

todeen 08-24-2021 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2137634)
I picked this up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrreality68 (Post 2137600)
Not sure why a thread is not started for Heritage.

Did not even think of starting one.

I won the 1917 Boston Store Joe Jackson to go along with my 1917 CM Joe Jackson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark17 (Post 2137599)
I won the George Crowe 1953 Milwaukee Braves GU jersey.

Braves shirts of that era are probably my favorite design of all time, '53 was their first year in Milwaukee, the shirt is in all original condition, close to 70 years old, and the player was a very nice, highly respected, and intelligent fellow, a great natural athlete, and instrumental in the integration movement. For under $2100 I thought it was a steal. Excerpts from the SABR article on him:

George Crowe was Indiana’s first Mr. Basketball and became a “Big Daddy” to early black players in major league baseball. “Crowe was the most articulate and far-sighted Negro then in the majors,” Jackie Robinson wrote. “Young Negroes turned to him for advice.”

He tried out for the Los Angeles Red Devils, a touring basketball team, and made the squad. He played forward opposite Jackie Robinson, who had just finished his first year in white baseball at Montreal. Future major leaguer Irv Noren was in the backcourt. When the Devils went broke after a few months, Crowe joined the New York Rens, a storied black basketball power since the 1920s. The team was originally known as the Harlem Renaissance Five because they played at the Renaissance Ballroom in Harlem. He said, “The Harlem Globetrotters got the publicity, but the Rens had the team.”

Baseball was Crowe’s year-round job during the 1950s. He barnstormed in the fall with teams headlined by Roy Campanella and Willie Mays, then moved on to the Caribbean during the winter. In the 1954-1955 season he played for Santurce, Puerto Rico, on one of the strongest winter league teams in history. The outfield included Mays, 20-year-old Roberto Clemente, and Negro League veteran Bob Thurman. Don Zimmer played shortstop, Negro League star Bus Clarkson was at third, and Sam Jones and local hero Ruben Gomez led the pitching staff.

Wherever he went, Crowe was the acknowledged leader of the African American players, most of them much younger than he. Vada Pinson, a rookie with Cincinnati in 1958, said Crowe “took me right under his wing. He came up to me and said, ‘If there are any problems, you come to me. I’m your father, your big daddy up here.’” Bob Gibson remembered that Crowe “was more like a dad and teacher than teammate, and most of what he counseled me on had nothing to do with playing the game.”

Crowe told Sports Illustrated’s Robert Boyle, “I like to see everybody keep their nose clean. And when you have fellows who are coming along who are new to this, I’m glad to give guidance.” He watched out for young black men no matter what uniform they wore: “If I knew a kid coming up with the Braves, I’d say to [Bill] Bruton, ‘Look out for this kid. Show him the places to eat. Don’t leave him stand in the hotel. Take him to the movies. Find out what he likes to do.’ “

Bill White said Crowe “was a very wise fellow who’d been through it all and, in the background, he led us in the integration movement [of spring training cities] in Florida before the Civil Rights Act.” In 1961, when Crowe was entering his final season, black Cardinals players seethed when their white teammates were invited to a Chamber of Commerce breakfast at a whites-only hotel in St. Petersburg. The next spring the team rented a motel where all the players and their families could stay together. Decades later Crowe reflected on the racism he had endured: “Even though you wanted to put it aside, you couldn’t. It couldn’t be put aside. Putting it aside was doing your best to ignore it, and that wasn’t easy, either. That’s what you had to do. You had to play through it.”

Crowe commanded respect from white teammates as well. By popular consent, he served as the judge of the Cardinals’ kangaroo court, meting out small fines for offenses such as missing the team bus or missing the cutoff man. He impressed Musial with how hard he worked to stay in shape. He told Musial, “The more time you spend on the bench the harder you’ve got to work to be ready when you’re called.”

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Originally Posted by riggs336 (Post 2137594)
I was very pleased to get this Matty.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2137583)
Strong prices on some great cards. Happy to pick this one up.
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Congrats on your purchases everyone. Beautiful pieces! I'm still finding treasures on BST and Facebook Groups. I suppose at some point I'll have to jump into AH to get more obscure items.

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Exhibitman 08-24-2021 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MattyC (Post 2137603)
I think there's no thread or general excitement because these days you need to be a billionaire to collect the kind of cards that the AH's list.

I wouldn't go that far but this was billed as a platinum auction and advertised as such. I got the mailer and didn't really bother with it (other than checking for one of my boxing unicorns, which I do in every auction) because I knew I was not a serious contender for anything in it. It is hard to generate buzz on an auction where most people are not realistically going to win anything.

Everyone who did get something, bravo. You landed some amazing and beautiful items.


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