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parkplace33 07-10-2021 07:09 PM

Alternate ways of buying cards
 
In the last week on the internet, I was offered two non standard ways of paying for cards. One person wanted to send me crypto currency and another wanted to send silver. Is this something new?

Johnny630 07-10-2021 07:16 PM

I don’t know what’s going on…..I do think stuff is being bought on margin and leverage with assets other then cash. I’ve never seen people at shows spend the kinda cash in person comparable to what cards are selling for in PWCC, Goldin, and ML.

The auction houses have the market cornered.

swarmee 07-10-2021 07:27 PM

The crypto request is not really new. There are a ton of crypto millionaires that are trying to get rid of having to convert to cash, and just turn it into other investments. Not sure if it's to get out of paying taxes somehow or just because they hate using government dollars.
I believe there are a couple of large auction houses that now accept bitcoin for payment on sports card auctions.

oldeboo 07-10-2021 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by parkplace33 (Post 2121938)
Is this something new?

Nah, silver has been used for several thousand years as a form of payment and long before the dollar bill. :D I know I'd rather have a handful of silver than a handful of dollar bills, especially over any significant duration.

Peter_Spaeth 07-10-2021 07:44 PM

If thirty pieces of silver were good enough for Judas...

Aquarian Sports Cards 07-10-2021 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by oldeboo (Post 2121947)
Nah, silver has been used for several thousand years as a form of payment and long before the dollar bill. :D I know I'd rather have a handful of silver than a handful of dollar bills, especially over any significant duration.

I would be worried someone is trying to pass fake silver

vintagetoppsguy 07-10-2021 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by oldeboo (Post 2121947)
I know I'd rather have a handful of silver than a handful of dollar bills, especially over any significant duration.

+1

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2121953)
I would be worried someone is trying to pass fake silver

You just have familiarize yourself with what to look for...like cards or any other item that's faked.

nat 07-10-2021 08:16 PM

"I know I'd rather have a handful of silver than a handful of dollar bills"

I dunno man, silver is trading at $26/oz, I bet dollars are going for more than that.


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Edit: okay, so I did the calculations, and it's closer than I thought. A dollar weighs one
gram, so an ounce of dollar bills is going to be worth a bit more than $28.

vintagetoppsguy 07-10-2021 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nat (Post 2121961)
Edit: okay, so I did the calculations, and it's closer than I thought. A dollar weighs one
gram, so an ounce of dollar bills is going to be worth a bit more than $28.

Silver is still more. Your $26/oz point of reference is the spot price - paper silver - mining stocks, ETFs, etc. Physical silver isn't tied to spot price in any way. I bought some bullion just today. I paid $31/oz.

Peter_Spaeth 07-10-2021 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 2121966)
Silver is still more. Your $26/oz point of reference is the spot price - paper silver - mining stocks, ETFs, etc. Physical silver isn't tied to spot price in any way. I bought some bullion just today. I paid $31/oz.

Does the spot price exist anywhere such that you can actually buy at it? In gold for example people are always advertising best price only x dollars above spot. Makes me want to buy at spot.

vintagetoppsguy 07-10-2021 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2121967)
Does the spot price exist anywhere such that you can actually buy at it? In gold for example people are always advertising best price only x dollars above spot. Makes me want to buy at spot.

I'm going to say no. Even if you could find a private seller, you would probably still pay over spot. And that's because the bullion dealers are buying over spot.

A little over a year ago, the situation was different. Many online dealers offered specials like "buy 10 ounces at spot" but those deals were limited to like 1 per household (address). But today, you won't find anything at spot.

And the price I paid today ($31/oz) is for generic silver. American silver eagles are selling for like $10 over spot.

oldeboo 07-10-2021 09:40 PM

I've dealt with a dealer that will sell generic gold and silver at spot and even at times under spot. Of course that is in person with cash and an established relationship. Let's just say he moves product incredibly fast and often has no inventory of generic because of this. Generally, the next person that walks in the door buys it. He's a retired fellow and I know that his margins are very small from speaking with him, he does it more for something to do a couple days a week. That's more of an exception to the rule though.

Typically, yes, there is a premium above spot and an extra premium for numismatic value.

rjackson44 07-10-2021 10:54 PM

I will take texas tommys as payment anytime🤭🤭

toledo_mudhen 07-11-2021 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rjackson44 (Post 2121978)
I will take texas tommys as payment anytime🤭🤭

Did you know that Texas Tommys were invented in Philly?

Casey2296 07-11-2021 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by toledo_mudhen (Post 2122019)
Did you know that Texas Tommys were invented in Philly?

Can you give me the history on that Lonnie?

toledo_mudhen 07-11-2021 05:32 AM

By "Texas Tommy" - I assume that you are talking about the world renowned delicacy that is a Bacon Wrapped - Cheese Stuffed Hot Dog - Yes? :)

https://www.tasteatlas.com/texas-tommy

and it appears that I was incorrect about Philly as Wikipedia says Pottstown, PA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Tommy_(food)

Casey2296 07-11-2021 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by toledo_mudhen (Post 2122027)
By "Texas Tommy" - I assume that you are talking about the world renowned delicacy that is a Bacon Wrapped - Cheese Stuffed Hot Dog - Yes? :)

https://www.tasteatlas.com/texas-tommy

and it appears that I was incorrect about Philly as Wikipedia says Pottstown, PA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Tommy_(food)

Ah, I was thinking baseball card but that sure looks tasty!

Johnny630 07-11-2021 08:09 AM

The Card Industry has always been the wild Wild West.

MikeGarcia 07-11-2021 10:34 AM

Nicknamed :
 
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Originally Posted by toledo_mudhen (Post 2122027)
By "Texas Tommy" - I assume that you are talking about the world renowned delicacy that is a Bacon Wrapped - Cheese Stuffed Hot Dog - Yes? :)

https://www.tasteatlas.com/texas-tommy

and it appears that I was incorrect about Philly as Wikipedia says Pottstown, PA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Tommy_(food)



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