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Buythatcard 06-30-2021 10:34 PM

Who Would Be Voted Into The Rogue Hall of Fame?
 
There is always talk about players who should have been in the HOF but were not voted in because they did something wrong. They took steroids, bet on their own team, threw the World Series, etc. These are just a few examples.

Since they may never be enshrined in the regular HOF, let's imagine that there is a Rogue Hall of Fame just for these type of players.

Who belongs in the Rogue Hall of Fame?

To start you off with some of the obvious, I would include the following:

Pete Rose
Joe Jackson
Mark McGwire
Bobby Bonds
Roger Clemens

brianp-beme 07-01-2021 12:17 AM

Hal Chase

Brian

butchie_t 07-01-2021 05:39 AM

Sammy Sosa
Rafael Palmeiro

jerseygary 07-01-2021 05:54 AM

Carl Mays

Len Koenecke

and

Benny Kauff

are two of my favorites for the Rogue Hall of Fame

Bartholomew_Bump_Bailey 07-01-2021 05:54 AM

Alex Rodriguez and Manny Ramirez

Bartholomew_Bump_Bailey 07-01-2021 06:01 AM

LOL......and as a Cubs fan, this dude

Man deserves his own special category in some type of "Rogue/Heel/Looney Tunes" HOF.....this excerpt is especially amusing:

"there were warning signs with this move almost from the word go. Bradley, known to have a mercurial personality, was ejected for arguing a strike three call with the bases loaded on April 16, 2009.

Yes, got tossed in his first at-bat in a Cubs uniform at Wrigley."

gonzo 07-01-2021 06:47 AM

Albert Belle. A diorama of the corked bat theft incident would make a nice exhibit.

Mike D. 07-01-2021 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 2118749)
Albert Belle. A diorama of the corked bat theft incident would make a nice exhibit.

And the interactive “dodge Joey/Albert’s car while trick-or-treating” experience is a real highlight!

rats60 07-01-2021 04:59 PM

Eddie Cicotte and lots of steroid guys. Gary Sheffield, Jose Canseco and David Ortiz in addition to the ones already mentioned.

atx840 07-01-2021 05:04 PM

My boy!

https://live.staticflickr.com/3826/1...180266f9_b.jpg

ThomasL 07-01-2021 05:25 PM

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If Roguishness is a factor in selection I'm putting up Chick Gandil...at his peak he was one of the top tier 1B in MLB...not the best but in say the top 3...for a short peak period...not a HOFer at all but a Rogue HOF might be first ballot:

Gandil's Rogue Resume:
Two sport athlete as an amateur boxer (three if you count bowling), jumped teams early in his hobo like career in the southwest (played in Cananea, Mex which was pretty violent place during that time), played under an assumed name, ran up tabs in stores and never paid, traded away from Washington during his peak bc he smoked too much and refused to stop, multiple on field fist fights with opposing players including Eddie Collins and Tris Speaker, basically organized the Black Sox scandal then likely kept other players fix money, and literally took 2 photographs his whole life where he is smiling I think.

Casey2296 07-01-2021 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by atx840 (Post 2118974)

He looks even more sinister with that pencil thin mustache.

brianp-beme 07-01-2021 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bartholomew_Bump_Bailey (Post 2118742)
LOL......and as a Cubs fan, this dude

Man deserves his own special category in some type of "Rogue/Heel/Looney Tunes" HOF.....this excerpt is especially amusing:

"there were warning signs with this move almost from the word go. Bradley, known to have a mercurial personality, was ejected for arguing a strike three call with the bases loaded on April 16, 2009.

Yes, got tossed in his first at-bat in a Cubs uniform at Wrigley."

It is telling that none of the 8 teams he played for ever wanted a return visit to their team.

Brian

brianp-beme 07-01-2021 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2118982)
He looks even more sinister with that pencil thin mustache.

It even almost makes him qualify as 'dastardly'.

Brian (aka Snidely Whiplash)

butchie_t 07-01-2021 07:40 PM

If anyone looks to want to rip up any of those cards in a fit of anger, please contact me first. I will pay for postage. :cool:

Misunderestimated 07-01-2021 08:25 PM

Ryan Braun whenever he's eligible ....
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Hal Chase, Pete Rose and Chick Gandil stand out for me historically.
Not sure about Gaylord Perry -- he was a roguish figure for sure but I think we are talking about something a bit more sinister here.
The worst PED offenders for me have to be guys who were proven to have used when it was against the rules and where the "proof" isn't a questionably sourced FBI leak of test results that were not intended to be anything official -- so guys like Manny and ARod and Braun -- who used his considerable resources to go after the poor guy who had to collect his samples (sort of like Lance Armstrong did) before finally coming clean when he was cornered into the truth. Next to these guys Bonds and Clemens are McGwire are second ballot Hall of Shame ... I would also leave the very first alleged PED player, Pud Galvin, alone.

I guess Carl Mays too although the story is complicated (great book called "The Pitch That Killed") and he wasn't that malevolent.

Mike D. 07-01-2021 09:23 PM

One of my least favorite things about the Baseball Hall of Fame is that they "induct" every past commissioner.

I think they'd all fit much more nicely here. :D

Maybe owners and umpires deserve the same treatment.

Casey2296 07-01-2021 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike D. (Post 2119081)
One of my least favorite things about the Baseball Hall of Fame is that they "induct" every past commissioner.

I think they'd all fit much more nicely here. :D

Maybe owners and umpires deserve the same treatment.

100% agree, Bart Giamatti was a salt of the earth human being and deserves enshrinement. If you're going to let self absorbed pricks like Bud Selig and Joe West in then you should damn sure let Joe Jackson in.

Mark17 07-01-2021 09:48 PM

Comiskey

Tabe 07-01-2021 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Misunderestimated (Post 2119061)
Ryan Braun whenever he's eligible ....

Man, screw that guy. Gets caught cheating, KNOWS HE DID IT, and tries to ruin the life on an innocent medical courier. Still ticks me off.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Misunderestimated (Post 2119061)
I guess Carl Mays too although the story is complicated (great book called "The Pitch That Killed") and he wasn't that malevolent.

Mays is also strongly rumored to have thrown games, with his own manager foremost among the accusers.


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