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pootshwan 03-09-2021 03:53 PM

Does greening or hulking affect grade
 
So this isn't a baseball card but does happen on the earlier Topps Chrome baseball cards. This is high profile card that commands some serious cash, that is why I used it in this example.

Take a look at this Kobe 1996 Topps Chrome BGS 10 Pristine

I looked up the serial on BGS website and it shows as being graded on Monday, October 08, 2012.

There is a possibility that when the card was graded it didn't have any loss of color...but does it even matter?

Does greening or hulking affect overall grade for PSA & BGS?

Regardless of what the companies think, what is your opinion on the subject?

Exhibitman 03-09-2021 04:46 PM

Should be treated the same as any other defect in the card. With PSA maybe a PD qualifier.

pootshwan 03-09-2021 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 2078965)
Should be treated the same as any other defect in the card. With PSA maybe a PD qualifier.

I agree but this one received a "Pristine" grade....better than Gem Mint!

Exhibitman 03-10-2021 07:14 AM

Maybe it hulked out after the grading? The inks are not stable, and could go bad any time.

jb217676 03-10-2021 07:29 AM

The greening effect is really bad on the early-mid 1990's Topps Finest & Topps Chrome Cards.

irv 03-10-2021 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jb217676 (Post 2079168)
The greening effect is really bad on the early-mid 1990's Topps Finest & Topps Chrome Cards, that effect happens after grading.

So, are you saying if these cards weren't slabbed they likely wouldn't have greened up, Jeff, or do they eventually green up anyway?

jb217676 03-10-2021 10:54 AM

Hi Dale,
I believe those early cards turned green because of the chemicals that were used to make those shiny cards back in the early 1990's. Over time I've heard they turned green and it wasn't because of sunlight or humidity, nothing was going to stop them from changing colour. I've read how people have recently opened brand new and sealed boxes of 1996 Topps Chrome Basketball and the cards came out of the pack green. After 1997 Topps changed the chemical process of how Chrome cards are manufactured, that's why you don't see any green 1998 Chrome Vince Carter RC's!

Exhibitman 03-10-2021 11:57 AM

I would never pay up for a pre-1998 card from these issues because of the instability of the dyes. They are all going to go bad eventually and a lot of people are going to be left holding FUGLY expensive cards. I found one a dollar bin last National and picked it up for the heck of it; I suspect there will be more in there.

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https://www.beckett.com/forums/thread-1555022.html

swarmee 03-10-2021 04:19 PM

If you're going to post the same questions over and over again on 3+ different message boards, at least put them in the proper forums each time. Greening doesn't apply to baseball cards from the 1945-1979 time frame.


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