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jchcollins 02-02-2021 10:06 AM

1967 Topps surface weirdness?
 
Any ideas on this one? The front surface of this '67 Pappas has a rigid, textured / wrinkled quality that I’ve never seen before, and almost looks like it's scratched. It does not appear to be damage (very uniform, cannot be seen when looking at the card unless held at the right angle), but almost a quality of the paper stock? Card would appear to be real and not some kind of fake; the halftone dot pattern is correct and the back is normal in comparison to my other '67 cards:

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steve B 02-02-2021 11:06 AM

I believe the 67s were multi layer with the fronts glued on. That sort of wrinkling can happen if the gluing doesn't get done right.

I have a couple "paper proofs" from 67 that are probably from a scrap front sheet.
https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...pictureid=1904

swarmee 02-02-2021 04:54 PM

Possible damage from the gum in the pack?

cornhusker 02-02-2021 08:11 PM

Any chance the card was in an old 9 pocket that went bad? Does it have any hint of vinyl odor?

ALBB 02-03-2021 06:04 AM

67 t
 
67 T Pappas....??..wasnt that the only card in the set that didn't have the facsimile autograph on it ??

swarmee 02-03-2021 10:23 AM

https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1967...&size=original
1967 Topps - [Base] #254 - Milt Pappas [PSA*Authentic]
Courtesy of COMC.com

Probably why PSA forgot to get this autograph authenticated...didn't notice the ink was live... ;-)

Edit: certified auto according to cert lookup site, just missing that info on the flip.

swarmee 02-03-2021 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cornhusker (Post 2063699)
Any chance the card was in an old 9 pocket that went bad? Does it have any hint of vinyl odor?

If it was stored in high humidity in a page, that might explain it as well.

jchcollins 02-04-2021 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cornhusker (Post 2063699)
Any chance the card was in an old 9 pocket that went bad? Does it have any hint of vinyl odor?

This was my other suspicion. No clue. It smells like other old cards, but that's the smell I associate with cardboard, not necessarily vinyl. So not sure. It almost looks like woodgrain texture, like I'm looking at a bat up close.

jchcollins 02-04-2021 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALBB (Post 2063786)
67 T Pappas....??..wasnt that the only card in the set that didn't have the facsimile autograph on it ??

Yes, this is the only card in the '67 set that doesn't come with the facsimile auto.

smellthegum 02-04-2021 12:38 PM

Looks like woodgrain (faux woodgrain?). As if the card might have spent some time pressed face-down against a textured surface with enough weight on top of it to leave an impression.


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