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T205 GB 01-17-2021 10:26 AM

Caught Sleeping. Who got Tom Jones?
 
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I was bidding on a T205 Tom Jones and it slipped my mind to set a high bid snipe. The unique fact of the card is that it has a green saturation to it that makes Tom Jones looks as though he has a severe case of seasickness. Did anyone here end up buying this card or know where it’s at?

cammb 01-17-2021 11:10 AM

That's "NOT UNUSUAL".

T205 GB 01-17-2021 12:32 PM

Yep. Super common issue with all T cards. :rolleyes:

swarmee 01-17-2021 12:39 PM

You missed the joke.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/671a...itemid=7267453

doug.goodman 01-17-2021 12:53 PM

Some of us got it, pussycat.

Exhibitman 01-17-2021 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by doug.goodman (Post 2056947)
Some of us got it, pussycat.

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...r%20austin.jpg

Oh, behave!

Kevin 01-17-2021 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cammb (Post 2056907)
That's "NOT UNUSUAL".

User cammb jumps ahead early for the POTY2021 !


POTY = Post of the Year

RCMcKenzie 01-17-2021 01:51 PM

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Here's a larger photo from the ebay auction. I did not see the auction until you pointed it out. Looks like a nice card. Not sure why his face looks green. Here's a Leever I have with a pink background.

gonzo 01-17-2021 02:14 PM

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I have a very similar Tom Jones that could be from the same sheet. Seems like some sort of ink defect/switcheroo.

Not only does the face have that green-grey coloring, but so does the nameplate.

Other print defects are the same, like the grey on the 3rd-base line, the broken line on the inside of 3rd base, and prominent dots above his left eye and between his head and 1st base. Also, they have very similar diamond cuts.

Scans below show my card, along with closeups of his face and of the nameplace (compared to a "normal" Jones).

RCMcKenzie 01-17-2021 08:16 PM

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That's amazing, Michael. The one you have has to be from the same sheet. I felt bad that I got their jokes because it made me feel old...

Pat R 01-17-2021 08:57 PM

I would say they're from the same plate but not the same sheet.

RCMcKenzie 01-17-2021 09:06 PM

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Pat, can you explain further? I've seen T205's that are o/c with different players, and one's with the same player. I don't know much about the printing process and assumed a sheet was made with an extra dose of green ink. Did they make one sheet at a time and check the quality, or run multiple sheets before looking at the product? Just wondering how many cards were thrown away over the years. I thought a plate was separate from the inking process?

Exhibitman 01-17-2021 09:49 PM

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...miscut%201.jpg

Pat R 01-17-2021 09:50 PM

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Hi Rob, the one that Michael posted and the one on ebay have the same
stray print marks that would have come from the same plates so they were
likely in the same sheet position but not on the same sheets but they may have been printed back to back or pretty close to the same time.

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Here's another jones from the same plate that doesn't have the extra green.

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RCMcKenzie 01-17-2021 10:06 PM

Thanks, Pat. I see what you are saying now. It makes me wonder about the BODA examples on blowout that say cards are the same card, when they could be different cards from the same plate. BTW, great card, Adam.

JustinD 01-18-2021 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie (Post 2056975)
Here's a Leever I have with a pink background.

Love that one!

Pat R 01-18-2021 07:53 PM

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Thanks, Pat. I see what you are saying now. It makes me wonder about the BODA examples on blowout that say cards are the same card, when they could be different cards from the same plate. BTW, great card, Adam.

I think they do a pretty good job of outing most cards but even some marks that seem unique are actually factory marks like the black mark on these Mitchells.

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T205 GB 01-19-2021 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 2056941)

Nah, I got it. Thats what the eyerolling emoji at the end was for. Sarcasm

T205 GB 01-19-2021 10:36 AM

Awesome info guys. I was hoping this was part of a sheet because multiples would have been made. Apparently several sheets were oversaturated with the green. Great job on pointing out the plate issues.

I think this is always the best part of prewar. We just don't know enough because records weren't kept but the overall knowledge of this board answers a lot of questions about printing and issues.


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