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GeoPoto 07-12-2020 04:31 AM

T3s or Other Cards with Landmarks Visible
 
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I recently noticed that two of my T3 cabinets appear to have iconic national landmarks in the background artwork. It has me wondering if others have similar examples.

Walter Johnson's T3 includes what resembles a hazy U.S. Capitol building in its background. The resemblance is strong and when coupled with WaJo's status as Washington's top pitcher, it would seem likely that the artist intended to include the Capitol in his (or her) rendition of Johnson on the mound.

The Capitol image on the Johnson card seems even more certain when we also examine the T3 of Barney's battery mate, Gabby Street. The Old Sarge's T3 shows a larger and more distinct profile of the U.S. Capitol and also includes an image of what could be the Washington Monument. It seems certain that by the time the artwork was created for his 1911 T3, Street's reputation included his 1908 feat of catching a ball pitched off the top of the Washington Monument.

This leads me to speculate that we have two cards reflecting the Capitol, one of which may also include the Washington Monument. Does anybody think I am imagining it? Anybody got similar examples of cards that include recognizable landmarks?
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jcmtiger 07-12-2020 08:38 AM

None on my 8 Detroit T3’s.

gonzo 07-12-2020 09:03 AM

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There was another thread some time back about the T206 Burch having the Statue of Liberty in the background.

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=206562

Also, I believe that the building in the background on the Diamond Stars card of Detroit’s Tom Bridges is a stylized Fisher Building. Pics below.

BeanTown 07-12-2020 09:40 AM

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The Hubel Hotel in Detroit

toppcat 07-12-2020 10:00 AM

I sold my T206's a while back but recall at least one Brooklyn player had Trinity Church (Manhattan) in the background.

Mark17 07-12-2020 06:48 PM

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Kid Elberfeld has the Washington Monument near his knee.

brianp-beme 07-13-2020 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by toppcat (Post 1998078)
I sold my T206's a while back but recall at least one Brooklyn player had Trinity Church (Manhattan) in the background.

Is it this Burch?

Brian (card not mine)

GeoPoto 07-13-2020 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark17 (Post 1998252)
Kid Elberfeld has the Washington Monument near his knee.

My Elberfeld is not as clear (at least my scan isn't) so I wasn't confident enough to include him in my post, but your scan convinces me. Thanks for posting.

GeoPoto 07-13-2020 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 1998334)
Is it this Burch?

Great example!

toppcat 07-13-2020 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 1998334)
Is it this Burch?

Brian (card not mine)

Bingo!

That has to be the Washington Monument in the left side skyline behind Gabby Street on his T3. Not much was that tall back then in DC and it lines up to the Capitol building opposite, which is really cool!

xplainer 07-14-2020 07:43 AM

Great thread.
I got to look closer at mine.

slantycouch 07-14-2020 08:08 AM

Very cool thread! Love seeing "new" things on old cards.

nat 07-14-2020 08:10 AM

Given the angles of the Capitol and the Washington Monument, you should be able to figure out precisely where in town Street is standing.

mouschi 07-14-2020 08:15 AM

Very good idea of a thread!

judsonhamlin 07-14-2020 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by nat (Post 1998737)
Given the angles of the Capitol and the Washington Monument, you should be able to figure out precisely where in town Street is standing.

Probably would be close to the current ballpark in SW DC

toppcat 07-14-2020 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by judsonhamlin (Post 1998789)
Probably would be close to the current ballpark in SW DC


I checked Green Cathedrals and National Park/Boundary Field was on the same site where Griffith Stadium was later built, and was home to the team at the time. It was North and not South of the National Mall though, so it appears reversed if it was meant to depict an actual background.

Benjamin Banneker Park environs maybe for the skyline then, which is a little Southeast of the Tidal Basin near the Case Memorial Bridge and has the proper angle.

I'm wondering if one of the other buildings would be part of the Smithsonian now. There's still a couple of old ones in that complex. Probably just fanciful artistry in a way but it's neat the way it was worked in.

brianp-beme 07-20-2020 06:13 PM

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Not sure if any landmarks/buildings are identifiable, but here are some 1910 and 1911 Obak cards with non-grandstand 'structures' in the background. I have grouped the players by team...maybe somebody can identify something.

I like the Bodie card with the windmill in the background.

Brian

GeoPoto 07-21-2020 06:47 AM

(I'm only seeing three cards and no Bodie/windmill, but that's not why I am responding.) I don't know anything about Washington State landmarks (accept Mount Rainier is shockingly beautiful when it reveals itself), but it is fascinating that the artist(s) created three very similar cards showing three players all playing for the same team, all posing at bat on a green field, but all showing very detailed and different structures in the background. Makes you suspect they are (were) landmarks that would have been recognized by the locals at the time.

GeoPoto 07-21-2020 08:38 AM

When I go in now, I still only see three cards, but they are different than the three I was seeing when I made my previous comments. Still no windmill.

dlfallen 07-21-2020 09:43 AM

There are four photos, each with 3-4 cards.

For now, I would suggest using a different browser. On my tablet, using the Google browser I see either no photos or one of them. Using either the Dolphin browser or the Samsung browser I see all four photos.

I think the problem stems from Net54's current website troubles. Using the Android version of Google, and the desktop versions of Google and Firefox, I get a security warning. Here is the one from Firefox:

Quote:

This website might not support the TLS 1.2 protocol, which is the minimum version supported by Firefox. Enabling TLS 1.0 and TLS 1.1 might allow this connection to succeed.

TLS 1.0 and TLS 1.1 will be permanently disabled in a future release.
The Google warnings see also to be related to the TLS protocol.

mrvster 07-23-2020 10:15 AM

That Cobby Gigantis
 
Looks CREEPY !!LOL:):D


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