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Bonk! 04-10-2020 03:22 PM

Help for the Unenlightened!
 
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I'll start this by saying I know virtually nothing about sports memorabilia. This forum was kind enough to guide me when I found a Babe Ruth ball in my father's basement. Well, I now have two more via my father-in-law's estate. I haven't had either authenticated, and would appreciate opinions if its worth it. I have no reason to believe they are not authentic, as apparently they have been in his family since they were signed, and both are in very good condition. I believe the are from the early '40s, the first being signed by all the Boston Boston Braves and the second by all the St. Louis Cardinals (including Stan!). These have no sentimental value and we will donate any proceeds we get. So, is it worth sending them to PSA when they reopen? Thanks.

darkhorse9 04-10-2020 03:33 PM

It's always hard to judge from a photo, but those show every sign of being printed signatures to me.

There's no feathering in the signatures. They all appear very similar in pressure and size. One would expect much more fading on the signatures consistent with the fading on the ball.

Just my opinion, though

Aquarian Sports Cards 04-10-2020 03:42 PM

I disagree, they are not uniform in intensity, they're not signed in perfect placement, even over the top of printing, and the ball is nowhere near complete. Also don't understand Frankie Drews on the ball unless he coached for STL. I can't say definitively if they are authentic, but I am fairly certain they are actual signatures.

EDIT: OK guessing he got this at a Boston Braves vs Cardinals game in 1944 or 1945. Tommy Holmes was a Brave as was Drews. Drews only appeared in the majors in 1944 and 45. Almost guarantees it's not a stamp. You don't have stamped balls of a handful of players from two teams. Unfortunately multi signed balls without a real theme aren't the most valuable things in the world even with a Musial signature.

roarfrom34 04-10-2020 03:55 PM

definitely not printed

Bonk! 04-10-2020 04:25 PM

Thanks - so based on this (I knew the value would be less with multiple signatures) do you think it's worth having them authenticated? I am in the Boston area so we'll donate the Braves ball to a charity auction, so I'll focus on the Cards ball.

charlietheexterminator 04-10-2020 04:26 PM

What I can tell is, they are some really strong autographs. Like they were done yesterday....I would prefer to see a little more wear, but that’s me

Bonk! 04-10-2020 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by charlietheexterminator (Post 1969781)
What I can tell is, they are some really strong autographs. Like they were done yesterday....I would prefer to see a little more wear, but that’s me

Thanks - the family can trace the balls back 50 years - not quite back to the signatures which, from the names I can read, are from 1943.

We also have a ball signed by all the Fisk-era Red Sox. It's pretty beat up - that one we know is real because my father-in-law was a news anchor out here and got those autographs personally. That one we're hanging on to....

Aquarian Sports Cards 04-10-2020 05:01 PM

Oh I thought we were looking at one ball. Team balls year becomes very important if it was a world series year etc. Sorry for my confusion but they are better than I was thinking.

bmattioli 04-10-2020 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonk! (Post 1969785)
We also have a ball signed by all the Fisk-era Red Sox. It's pretty beat up - that one we know is real because my father-in-law was a news anchor out here and got those autographs personally. That one we're hanging on to....

That ball I would love to see, on the two shown they look very well preserved and would have to see them in person..

Joe Hunter 04-10-2020 05:08 PM

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Those are definitely not printed and I would say they are authentic. I've owned some printed balls from the forties, and they are easy to spot. These are nice baseballs, but probably not worth the extra cost of having then authenticated. How many signatures are on each ball? That would make a difference.

Bonk! 04-10-2020 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Hunter (Post 1969797)
How many signatures are on each ball? That would make a difference.

Both probably have 15 - 20 signatures.

Bonk! 04-10-2020 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bmattioli (Post 1969795)
That ball I would love to see, on the two shown they look very well preserved and would have to see them in person..

Where are you located?! The Sox ball's condition is nowhere near the others. The signatures are faded and the ball is roughed up. I don't know if it was a game ball or played with in later years. I can take some photos if you'd like.

Joe Hunter 04-10-2020 05:15 PM

I would definitely not worry about getting them authenticated. Most team ball collectors want to see more players. Still collectible, though, especially since they are in nice shape.

Bonk! 04-10-2020 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1969793)
Team balls year becomes very important if it was a world series year etc.

Interesting, because the Cards went to the series in '43 and '44, the latter they won. I guess I need to pin the year down on that one.

bmattioli 04-10-2020 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonk! (Post 1969799)
Where are you located?! The Sox ball's condition is nowhere near the others. The signatures are faded and the ball is roughed up. I don't know if it was a game ball or played with in later years. I can take some photos if you'd like.

Located in CT.. PM me for contact info if you'd like to send pics..

Bonk! 04-13-2020 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Hunter (Post 1969801)
I would definitely not worry about getting them authenticated. Most team ball collectors want to see more players. Still collectible, though, especially since they are in nice shape.

Thanks for the input - any suggestions as to the next step if I want to see the Cards ball? Anything we get from this will be donated to charity.

Duluth Eskimo 04-13-2020 01:25 PM

Those are both nice baseballs and authentic in my opinion. You could photograph them well and attempt to sell on eBay if that is possible for you. Otherwise you could send to one of the auction houses that specializes in autographs for them to sell. Value depends on the exact year which you can tell by who is on the ball and what years they played on the team as someone has eluded to. Price also depends on how many signatures are on each ball and if all bigger names players are there. Also if the team won the World Series or played in it that year.

Bonk! 04-13-2020 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo (Post 1970799)
Otherwise you could send to one of the auction houses that specializes in autographs for them to sell.

Thanks - is there an auction house you'd recommend I reach out to?

ATP 04-13-2020 02:55 PM

Hi, I sent you a PM and can help you figure out the years and approximate value if you would like. Thank you.


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