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luciobar1980 03-03-2020 09:10 AM

Eight Men Out: buncha poppycock?
 
Hey guys, what do you think of this film? Is it generally regarded by baseball guys as Hollywood Fluff?

Pre War Starter 03-03-2020 09:37 AM

My all time favorite baseball film.
I am a 1919 Series collector and I absolutely love it.

RUKen 03-03-2020 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by luciobar1980 (Post 1959396)
Hey guys, what do you think of this film? Is it generally regarded by baseball guys as Hollywood Fluff?

The film is visually appealing, but it is based on the Eliot Asinof book of the same name that has been largely debunked by SABR. You can read a summary of their major findings here: https://sabr.org/eight-myths-out

tedzan 03-03-2020 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RUKen (Post 1959400)
The film is visually appealing, but it is based on the Eliot Asinof book of the same name that has been largely debunked by SABR. You can read a summary of their major findings here: https://sabr.org/eight-myths-out

Thanks for posting the SABR link on this subject.

Also, I recommend the book...." RED LEGS and BLACK SOX "......written by Edd Roush's Grandaughter, Susan Dellinger (Copyright 2006).

I met her in Cooperstown in 2006, and we talked for quite a while. At the end of our conversation she gave me an autographed copy of her book.

Susan's story is based on her 1st-hand knowledge of conversations and memorabilia from her HOFer Grandfather Edd and her Grandmother, Essie Mae Roush.

Her main contention is that Cincinnati unequivocally won the 1919 World Series.


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shagrotn77 03-03-2020 12:52 PM

I remember the joke about what the movie would have been called if it was about a women's team.

90feetaway 03-04-2020 06:32 AM

SABR link on myth vs reality
 
A good read, thanks for sharing. Fits in nicely with the other Black Sox card thread.

TCMA 03-04-2020 08:38 AM

https://sabr.org/eight-myths-out

GeoPoto 03-04-2020 02:26 PM

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Bridwell 03-04-2020 04:52 PM

Eight Men Out
 
The Eight Men Out movie is a classic. I don't think it is factually correct, but it is fun to watch. I really felt like I went back in time to 1919. You can picture yourself in a room with Joe Jackson, Cicotte or Gandil while watching this movie. What would you do in those situations? The sets and costumes are amazing. I can't think of a better baseball movie from that era.

botport 03-04-2020 06:00 PM

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I love Eight Men Out. Not that I would know exactly what to look for but I think the scenes of the old ballparks in that film are really cool and provide, to me a realistic view into a deadball era game.

A little off topic but there is a scene in Field of Dreams where Archie 'Moonlight' Graham says... 'there's Gil Hodges!' maybe its nitpicky of me but that line always makes me cringe. Eight Men Out may not be factually accurate across the board but there is nothing in that movie that makes me shake my head like the Hodges line in FOD.

Hxcmilkshake 03-04-2020 06:09 PM

I like how when the inning was over the fielders would just leave their gloves out there.

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PSACJ 03-04-2020 06:35 PM

My favorite Baseball movie of all-time!

lumberjack 03-04-2020 07:26 PM

Eight Men Out
 
In order to make the game action look authentic, the producers brought in instructors to show the actors how do it right. Charlie Sheen said, "We could do everything the guys from MLB could do, only we were doing it in slow motion." I love that.
lumberjack

Chicosbailbonds 03-05-2020 07:30 PM

Outstanding, my favorite sports movie.

glynparson 03-06-2020 08:56 AM

I rather enjoy the film
As a work of fiction.

mouschi 03-06-2020 05:43 PM

Turning the black sox white is a good book to check out

Tabe 03-06-2020 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mouschi (Post 1960229)
Turning the black sox white is a good book to check out

Tim Hornbaker, the author, is a friend of mine. I truly believe he is the best baseball author going right now. This book, his Cobb bio, and his Shoeless Joe bio are all absolutely top-shelf.


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