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Your all time Starting lineup
One each if one catcher right and left handed starter and a closer, 3 of any positions and 2 reserves any positions. This should b fun. Can’t wait to see everyone’s!
1b Gehrig 2b Hornsby Ss Wagner 3b Schmidt Of Cobb Ruth Mays C Bench Rh W Johnson Lh W Spahn Closer Mariano Reserves: DiMaggio Griffey Let’s see yours! |
My Lineup
1B - Lou Gehrig
2B - Rogers Hornsby SS - Honus Wagner 3B - Mike Schmidt C - Johnny Bench LF - Ted Williams CF - Willie Mays RF - Babe Ruth RHP - Walter Johnson LHP - Lefty Grove CL - Mariano Rivera Bench: Cobb, Aaron, Young *Not too many differences from you. I broke out the outfielders by position and added a reserve for pitching. |
SP Walter Johnson
SP Sandy Koufax CL Trevor Hoffman (Padre bias) C Josh Gibson 1B Lou Gehrig 2B Rogers Hornsby SS "Pop" Lloyd 3B Mike Schmidt OF Babe Ruth OF Oscar Charleston OF Tony Gwynn (Padre bias) UT Pete Rose UT Ted "Double Duty" Radcliffe. |
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1B Gehrig 2B Hornsby SS Wagner 3B Schmidt OF Cobb, Ruth, Aaron C Bench RHP Walter Johnson LHP Grove Closer Mariano Reserves Mays, Griffey |
1B - Lou Gehrig
2B - Rogers Hornsby SS - Honus Wagner 3B - George Brett C - Johnny Bench LF - Babe Ruth CF - Willie Mays RF - Roberto Clemente RHP - Walter Johnson LHP - Sandy Koufax CL - Mariano Rivera Bench: Cobb, Williams, Musial |
Sorry, I'm a homer:
1b Hank Greenberg 2b Charlie Gehringer ss Alan Trammell 3b Miguel Cabrera C Mickey Cochrane LF Harry Heilmann CF Ty Cobb RF Sam Crawford RHP Justin Verlander LHP Hal Newhouser Closer John Hiller Bench: Dan Brouthers, Sam Thompson, Norm Cash Just don't bunt to the third base side. |
I find it odd that one of the most popular players of all time (Mantle) is on no one's list.
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Is this meant to be favorite players or best players?
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If we're taking players at their peak to actually play games that's the different than picking the best career at each position. Not that a peak can be as short as one or two fluke seasons.
My list: 1b Gehrig 2b Jackie Robinson Ss Wagner 3b Schmidt Of Cobb Ruth Mays C Piazza Rh Pedro Martinez Lh Koufax Closer - who cares. Rivera, Hoffman, Quisenberry, Sutter, they make very little difference to a team's success unless they're awful. Reserves: Williams, Trout |
C - Kling
1b - Chase 2nd - Johnny Evers SS- Wagner 3b - J Collins Lf - Schulte CF- Speaker Rf - Cobb Pitchers Mordecai Brown and Walter Johnson |
C- Bench
1B- Gehrig 2B- Morgan SS- Wagner 3B- Schmidt LF- Bonds (pre-steroids) CF- Mays RF- Ruth LHP- Grove RHP- Johnson RP- Rivera Bench- Cobb + Hornsby * ask this question again in 5 years and I might put Trout on the team. |
Here's mine, from only the players who I have seen play in-person:
LF - Rickey Henderson 2B - Joe Morgan CF - Ken Griffey Jr 1B - Hank Aaron 3B - Mike Schmidt RF - Dave Winfield C - Johnny Bench SS - Ozzie Smith P - Nolan Ryan P - Phil Niekro (just because his knuckler would be so different and effective) P - Randy Johnson P - Greg Maddux P - Steve Carlton P - Roger Clemens P - Mariano Rivera P - Goose Gossage P - Dennis Eckersley P - Rollie Fingers DH - Tony Gwynn UP - Pete Rose Mgr - Sparky Anderson Steve |
Brooks Robinson at 3B.
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Not saying its the best team, just my favorite - who I would like to see.
C - Berra 1B - Gehrig 2B - Hornsby 3B- Brooks SS - Wagner OF - Ruth OF - Cobb OF - Bo Jackson DH - Ted Williams P - Nolan Ryan P - Satchell Paige P - Ruth P - Koufax When Ruth pitches, Aaron in the outfield. Manager - Billy Martin |
W Johnson
S Koufax M Rivera Y Berra L Gehrig R Hornsby G Brett H Wagner T Cobb W Mays B Ruth H Aaron J Foxx |
2017 Astros or the 2018 Red Sox.....
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1. Rickey Henderson OF
2. Derek Jeter SS 3. Roberto Clemente OF 4. Willie Mays OF 5. Ernie Banks 1B 6. Harmon Killebrew 3B 7. Jackie Robinson 2B 8. Johnny Bench C 9. Koufax If were using a DH, it would be a toss up between Trout, Aaron or Mantle. Too hard to choose. Honorable Mentions: Puhols, Skinny Bonds, Ted Williams, Dimaggio I know Henderson is the wild card, but terms of lead off hitter, there is no better option. If you have one better, feel free to make your argument. If he gets a walk it's like a triple. Took Clemente over Mantle, Trout and Aaron because he was a multi dimensional talent (Trout's resume isn't long enough yet). |
C Josh Gibson (based on reputation mostly -- based on MLB Stats I'll Take Bench )
1B Gehrig 2B Hornsby (not a good fielder though) SS H. Wagner 3B A Rodriguez (reluctantly ....) OF: B Bonds (LF) ; W Mays (CF); B Ruth (RF) -- O Charleston Utility : A Pujols; R Henderson (PR) T Cobb (PR/PH) DH T Williams --- SP R- W Johnson SP L -L Grove Long Relief : S Paige Short Relief - M. Rivera Mgr. J McGraw (he could fill in at 3b where he had a great OBA) ---- I'm a history guy. I feel bad about the 19th Century and Negro Leaguers but the lack of reliable comparative data makes it hard. I picked Josh Gibson and noted a few others from the negro leagues. My understanding is that O. Charleston was the best Negro League position player but he played CF and I'm not willing to slate him above Mays. I also thought about Buck Ewing as a 19th Century guy because he was supposed to be the best all around player of the era as a utility entry or Catcher and King Kelly too. The early pitchers put up crazy numbers (40-50 win seasons and short 300+ win careers ) but they are really hard to evaluate with the odd rules of the era .... Cy Young was tempting as the RHP since he is so far and away the wins leader but I went with Johnson because he was more dominant. |
Fun to think about all time great teams. I'll go with:
1B Lou Gehrig 2B Jackie Robinson 3B George Brett SS Honus Wagner C Yogi Berra OF Babe Ruth OF Ty Cobb OF Mickey Mantle RHP Satchel Paige LHP Randy Johnson CL Mariano Rivera (I am one of those guys that thinks closers matter quite a bit, especially in close games) BN Willie Mays BN Ted Williams * Bonds and ARod not included because of their "issues" Actual Lineup 1 Jackie Robinson 2 Honus Wagner 3 Ty Cobb 4 Lou Gehrig 5 Babe Ruth 6 Mickey Mantle 7 Yogi Berra 8 George Brett 9 Pitcher |
Here is my lineup:
C-Bench 1B-Cabrera 2B-Rose 3B-Brett SS-Ripken OF-Gwynn OF-Griffey Jr. OF-Trout RHP-Maddux LHP-Carlton Closer-Eckersly |
I don’t have the energy tonight to fill out a full lineup card, but there is no way my lineup doesn’t have Rickey Henderson at the top of the lineup. The guy had such amazing plate discipline and the speed is just insane. And in days when he’s not in the lineup, he’s a huge asset off the bench for a SB (or two). Glad to see him getting some love from others on the board!
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If you include players that "allegedly" used performance enhancers then consideration for Bonds, Clemens and A-Rod would be there.
It's tough to distinguish between eras when selecting an ATG team. Personally, I'd keep the performance enhancers off my list. |
C Bench
1B Gehrig 2B Hornsby SS Wagner 3B Schmidt LF Williams CF Cobb RF Ruth RH Johnson LH Koufax Closer Rivera Bench : Berra, Mays, DiMaggio, Rodriguez |
This is a cool and interesting thread.
It appears to me that the three most consistently named (i.e., most consensus first team all time) are Gehrig 1b, Wagner SS, and Ruth OF. |
I debated Foxx over Gehrig but decided I was just trying too hard.
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OF is the hardest part for me.
Mays, Ruth, Cobb, Aaron, Mantle, Williams, Bonds, DiMaggio, Griffey, Trout. Getting that down to 3 is impossible. |
If I HAD to win a game to save my life I'd go to war with these guys:
1B Frank Robinson* 2B Jackie Robinson 3B Brooks Robinson SS Honus Wagner OF Willie Mays OF Roberto Clemente OF Ty Cobb C Yogi Berra SP Bob Gibson RP Bob Gibson (he can close for himself. nobody else is getting on that mound) Bench Hank Aaron, Babe Ruth, & Pete Rose *=Cheating a bit here but I'm playing Frank somewhere. I remember a column many years ago by Detroit writer Joe Falls in which he said that if he could pick a team to win one game (or save his life, I'm not sure) that he's start with the three Robinsons and then let the other guy pick his nine. Or something along those lines. It has stuck with me after all this time. |
I love that Ted Williams add at DH. He's my number 2 there if Ruth had to be there(aka the second best pure hitter. Id want to put him in the OF w Cobb and Ruth but Willie Mays has to get the nod there given the other tools.
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1b- Gehrig
2b- Hornsby SS- Wagner 3b- Schmidt Of- Ruth, Mays, Bonds C- Johnny Bench RP- Walter Hohnson LP- Koufax Relief- Rivera |
I'm somewhat biased. My all time starting 9 is:
1b - Joe Adcock 2b - Red Schoendienst SS - Johnny Logan 3b - Eddie Mathews C- Del Crandall RF - Hank Aaron CF - Billy Bruton LF - Wes Covington RHP - Lew Burdette LHP - Warren Spahn |
IF...
we could agree on a lineup of the #1 at each position... AND... we put together lineups #2 through #10... AND... the ten teams played a 162 game season... I'd hate to live on the difference between the actual results and 10 .500 ball clubs......LOL |
1b jake daubert
2b nap lajoie Ss barry larkin Lf stan musial Cf ty cobb Rf mel ott C johnny bench Rhp mathewson Lhp eddie plank Rp Walter Johnson Rp nolan ryan Rp Grover Cleveland Alexander Bench babe ruth, edd roush, eddie collins, foxx, hornsby Coach john j mcgraw |
So many people forget just how dominating Bob Gibson was for a decade. If I needed to win one game and I was assured he had his best stuff, I would send out Gibson every time. Especially in the postseason. I love his delivery follow through. It defies gravity.
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Pre-war
RHP - Walter Johnson LHP - Lefty Grove C - Josh Gibson 1B - Lou Gehrig 2B - Rogers Hornsby 3B - Pie Traynor SS - Honus Wagner LF - Ted Williams CF - Ty Cobb RF - Babe Ruth DH - Joe DiMaggio Closer - Hoss Radbourn Manager - John McGraw GM - Harry Wright Post-war RHP - Bob Gibson LHP - Sandy Koufax C - Johnny Bench 1B - Stan Musial 2B - Jackie Robinson 3B - Mike Schmidt SS - Ozzie Smith LF - Rickey Henderson CF - Willie Mays RF - Hank Aaron DH - Mickey Mantle Closer - Miriano Rivera Manager - Tony LaRussa GM - Joe Torre |
1B- Gehrig
2B- Hornsby SS- Wagner (A-Rod if using PED users) 3B- Schmidt LF - Williams (Bonds if using PED users) CF -Mays RF - Ruth C- Johnny Bench SP- Walter Hohnson (Clemens if using PED users) RP- Rivera |
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Cool idea to use different eras. Could break it into three eras - dead ball, live ball and past 40 years (inclusive/exclusive of PED users). |
C. Bench
1B Gehrig 2B. Hornsby SS Smith 3B. Schmidt OF. Aaron Mays Ruth LHP Johnson RHP Maddux RP. Rivera Reserves. Charleston Williams |
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Very interesting that the player with the highest % of HOF votes for quite some time (held that mark for 24 years) is not mentioned on anyone's ballot.
Tom Seaver. There are several other RHPs listed multiple times above (Ryan, Maddux, Gibson, Johnson, etc) that fell below Tom Terrific in HOF voting. I would have thought he would have shown up on at least some lists. Here's mine: LHP - Unit (barely over Carlton) RHP - Ryan (barely over Seaver) C - Bench - (the non-pereil) 1B - Gehrig (with Pujols right behind) 2B - Morgan (with Hornsby right behind) SS - Wagner (with Rip right behind) 3B - Brett (picture under 'ball player' in the dictionary) LF - Bonds (7x MVP) CF - Mays (best all around player, ever) RF - Ruth (what can I say, changed the game) Closer - Mo (Mr. 100%) DH/PH - Teddy Ballgame (best hitter ever) Manager - Sparky |
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