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thetruthisoutthere 01-25-2020 12:23 PM

Nolan Ryan Forged 1999 Inkredible Card
 
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I don't know (yet) if the card is a counterfeit or not, but it is certainly a forgery.

Discovered these by accident as I was checking out Ebay seller Anme_47 (a seller of Florida forgeries and various forged/counterfeit cards).

I also observed the majority of these on Ebay are forgeries.

This crap is never-ending.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-NOLAN-...gAAOSwMLtdzzOd



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Below is a side-by-side of an authentic version and forged version.


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steve B 01-25-2020 12:26 PM

The forged one looks like something off an inkjet printer.

thetruthisoutthere 01-25-2020 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by steve B (Post 1950019)
The forged one looks like something off an inkjet printer.

Yep.

The hologram looks similar to the forged/counterfeit cards I've exposed and the card itself looks "strange."

earlywynnfan 01-25-2020 12:38 PM

That's one fugly sig, I think I can do better! And even the little kids at school make fun of my handwriting.

Steve D 01-25-2020 07:53 PM

I am a huge Nolan Ryan collector: he's my all-time favorite athlete, and one of the main focuses of my collection. As such, I've seen and obtained many of his autographs over the past 40 years.

That real one you posted above, is the first authentic Ryan I can remember ever seeing. Every single one of these cards I recall seeing has been fake.

I've often wondered if a real, authentically autographed version of this card even exists at all, as I said above, I don't think I've ever seen one until this thread.

Steve

Scott Garner 01-26-2020 03:45 AM

Hi Chris,
Wow, this is one Nolan Ryan fake signature that you can spot from 50 ft. away it is so bad.

Unreal that people believe that this crap will be believed to be authentic :(

thetruthisoutthere 01-26-2020 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve D (Post 1950169)
I am a huge Nolan Ryan collector: he's my all-time favorite athlete, and one of the main focuses of my collection. As such, I've seen and obtained many of his autographs over the past 40 years.

That real one you posted above, is the first authentic Ryan I can remember ever seeing. Every single one of these cards I recall seeing has been fake.

I've often wondered if a real, authentically autographed version of this card even exists at all, as I said above, I don't think I've ever seen one until this thread.

Steve

Steve, my own research tells me that his autograph on that card is extremely rare.

thetruthisoutthere 01-26-2020 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Garner (Post 1950211)
Hi Chris,
Wow, this is one Nolan Ryan fake signature that you can spot from 50 ft. away it is so bad.

Unreal that people believe that this crap will be believed to be authentic :(

Scott, you are so right about that.

There a few of them on Ebay.

Ebay seller Anme_47 (a seller of Florida forgeries and various counterfeit cards) has sold two of these and has another one listed.

Aquarian Sports Cards 01-26-2020 12:07 PM

Wow.

I seem to be saying that a lot lately. I used to use it a lot more positively.

>sigh<

thetruthisoutthere 01-26-2020 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1950302)
Wow.

I seem to be saying that a lot lately. I used to use it a lot more positively.

>sigh<

I agree, Scott.

People have no idea the true scope of forgeries and counterfeit cards.

homerunhitter 02-03-2020 07:47 PM

Very sad to hear. If we can’t trust TPAs like PSA and JSA and we can’t trust factory certified autographs, what do we collect then? What do you collect Christopher?

bnorth 02-03-2020 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere (Post 1950311)
I agree, Scott.

People have no idea the true scope of forgeries and counterfeit cards.

Some of us do but there is a whole bunch of people doing their best to cover it up and make it go away.

thetruthisoutthere 02-04-2020 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 1952549)
Some of us do but there is a whole bunch of people doing their best to cover it up and make it go away.

For sure, Ben...

Primarily Ebay.

homerunhitter 02-04-2020 10:49 PM

Christopher
What do you collect then?

Fuddjcal 02-05-2020 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by homerunhitter (Post 1952809)
Christopher
What do you collect then?

What does it matter what he collects Al the Forgers Pal?

homerunhitter 02-05-2020 09:59 AM

Just wondering because if we can’t trust psa slabbed autos and we can’t trust factory certified autos then what should we collect that is safe/authentic?

thetruthisoutthere 02-05-2020 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by homerunhitter (Post 1952887)
Just wondering because if we can’t trust psa slabbed autos and we can’t trust factory certified autos then what should we collect that is safe/authentic?

Self education.

There are dozens upon dozens of collectors here on Net54 who have the passion to learn.

Whether it's cards or autographs, you have to have a passion to learn. That passion evolves into knowledge.

shelly 02-06-2020 06:08 PM

[QUOTE=homerunhitter;1952545]Very sad to hear. If we can’t trust TPAs like PSA and JSA and we can’t trust factory certified autographs, what do we collect then? What do you collect Christopher?[/QUOTE.


I have no idea why anyone would trust the TPA's they are human like the rest of us.
I

Scott Garner 02-06-2020 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere (Post 1953044)
self education.

There are dozens upon dozens of collectors here on net54 who have the passion to learn.

Whether it's cards or autographs, you have to have a passion to learn. That passion evolves into knowledge.

+100

Aquarian Sports Cards 02-06-2020 06:44 PM

Or you could do what a lot of guys do and only collect in person autographs.


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