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Throttlesteer 01-15-2020 09:24 PM

How did this get an Ex grade?
 
Sorry to drag yet another PWCC auction into the mix. But I'm dizzy from shaking my head on this one. Is that not paper loss on the back of the Ott? Big difference from slight wear.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F402025028631

bnorth 01-15-2020 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Throttlesteer (Post 1947491)
Sorry to drag yet another PWCC auction into the mix. But I'm dizzy from shaking my head on this one. Is that not paper loss on the back of the Ott? Big difference from slight wear.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F402025028631

It got the grade because it deserved it. Also how dare you, PWCC is an honest seller. I know a guy that personally talks to Brent and he assures me he is a good guy.

irv 01-15-2020 09:41 PM

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It got the grade because it deserved it. Also how dare you, PWCC is an honest seller. I know a guy that personally talks to Brent and he assures me he is a good guy.

:D

Fred 01-15-2020 09:41 PM

Poor subjectivity?

bbnut 01-15-2020 09:54 PM

Looking at the pic, might be attached extra paper.

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Jim65 01-16-2020 03:25 AM

"light surface wear on the reverse" :rolleyes:

Republicaninmass 01-16-2020 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bbnut (Post 1947498)
Looking at the pic, might be attached extra paper.

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This was my thought, but I err on the side of mistakes lately

1952boyntoncollector 01-16-2020 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Throttlesteer (Post 1947491)
Sorry to drag yet another PWCC auction into the mix. But I'm dizzy from shaking my head on this one. Is that not paper loss on the back of the Ott? Big difference from slight wear.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F402025028631

really doesnt matter what they grade it...if you dont like it at that grade you dont buy it.....

Aquarian Sports Cards 01-16-2020 07:27 AM

Pretty low end 5 even BEFORE we get to the reverse.

jchcollins 01-16-2020 07:36 AM

How did this get an Ex grade?
 
Simple fact which remains as true today as it did 20+ years ago: They miss things. Often. Sometimes big things. Sometimes perhaps on purpose for entities like PWCC, sometimes not on purpose for average, Joe Blow collectors like me.

Last year I had a ‘68 Topps Willie Stargell in a hologrammed PSA 7 slab. On the back, the lower left corner was both creased and flipped-up. Huh? It should have been like a 4.


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Johnny630 01-16-2020 07:50 AM

It's my belief that the Grade is dependent upon whom submits the card.

chriskim 01-16-2020 07:52 AM

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irishdenny 01-16-2020 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny630 (Post 1947545)
It's my belief that the Grade is dependent upon whom submits the card.

And lets Not Forget the Possibility of an Adolescent Grading Genius who was born when PSA was Founded...

Soo, lets stay consistent with what i would of received from them!

"1.5 (OC)" :)

cammb 01-16-2020 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny630 (Post 1947545)
It's my belief that the Grade is dependent upon whom submits the card.

+!

packs 01-16-2020 10:13 AM

I re-watched Bill and Ted recently. I called everything and anything excellent for a week after.

brianp-beme 01-16-2020 09:38 PM

I guess my great looking example of this Ott card, which has staple holes, is a $400 card after it slips past the graders like this one did.

Brian

seanofjapan 01-17-2020 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 1947582)
I re-watched Bill and Ted recently. I called everything and anything excellent for a week after.

This is good.

GrayGhost 01-17-2020 11:14 AM

Scrapbook residue?

Like the old line:

Cracker Jack Chief Bender. Nr mt card !!!!beautiful color gloss and corners. A couple minor wrinkles and tiny border tear MFA. Will fit in any world class Cracker Jack vintage card or Chief Bender collection!!!’n🤡

bnorth 01-17-2020 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Throttlesteer (Post 1947491)
Sorry to drag yet another PWCC auction into the mix. But I'm dizzy from shaking my head on this one. Is that not paper loss on the back of the Ott? Big difference from slight wear.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F402025028631

To be honest that card could be a Gem Mint 10 compared to some cards I just seen listed for sale as Nr Mint that are VG-EX at best.

robkas68 01-17-2020 02:42 PM

shocked
 
PSA must be getting tough. Usually a PWCC card with those flaws would get a 7 from PSA. If I submitted it it would get a 2, but it is an objective standard. PSA objectivity looks at how much I submit and then objectively looks at how much they submit :D

swarmee 01-17-2020 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by robkas68 (Post 1947879)
PSA must be getting tough. Usually a PWCC card with those flaws would get a 7 from PSA. If I submitted it it would get a 2, but it is an objective standard. PSA objectivity looks at how much I submit and then objectively looks at how much they submit :D

I would bet you've submitted more to them in the past 6 months than Brent has... ;-)
But look at their Facebook page: they just graded 3 new FRESH TO THE MARKET 1952 TOPPS MANTLES. Believe it or not, I'm walking on air.

steve B 01-17-2020 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 1947885)
I would bet you've submitted more to them in the past 6 months than Brent has... ;-)
But look at their Facebook page: they just graded 3 new FRESH TO THE MARKET 1952 TOPPS MANTLES. Believe it or not, I'm walking on air.

Actually new to the market? Or "new" like a restored car?

swarmee 01-17-2020 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by steve B (Post 1947890)
Actually new to the market? Or "new" like a restored car?

Yeah, they're getting heckled for posting it. I asked whether it was Evan Mathis or Gary Moser that submitted... ;-)


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