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Top Ten
I was looking through some old catalogs and books this morning and picked up a 1980 Sport Americana Baseball Card Price Guide. Included in the guide was a top ten list of cards from the collection of Barry Halper. This got me thinking about what would be today's top ten most valuable baseball cards. To come up with cards that are truly the most valuable, I am asking this question for cards in the lowest grades PSA 1, Sgc 10, or authentic grades. I am asking what cards would be the most valuable regardless of condition. This caveat would exclude post war cards completely, including the 1952 Topps Mantle. which "only" sells for maybe a couple thousand dollars in the lowest grades. Obviously the T206 Wagner would be there, but I'm interested in which other cards would make your list.
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I'd think a Baltimore News Ruth would make the cut as would the N172 Anson in uniform.
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E90-1 Jackson. T206 plank
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I don’t know pre 1900, and I am sure there are many/several. Off the top of my, sitting in the stands at my son’s wrestling match:
T206 wagner Baltimore news Ruth M101-5 Ruth (and related) 1915 Red Sox post card (w/ Ruth) W600 Cobb T206 Cobb, Cobb back T206 Plank T210 Jackson 1914 Cracker Jack Jackson 1914 Cracker Jack Matty 1933 Goudey Lajoie |
1893 Just So Cy Young.
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T206 Doyle
E107 Wagner & Mathewson And 1 post-war that comes to mind is the 1961 Dice Mantle, a PSA 1 sold for over $100k in REA last year. |
As I’m looking at your list and seeing how many I have I keep getting screwed up and then finally I count and there’s 11! Can we remove the Goudey Lajoie since I don’t have that one? :)
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The list from back then would differ greatly from the list today if you are basing your list just on values or sold prices. Do a search for the 10 biggest prices baseball cards I’ve ever sold for eliminating duplicates and there is your answer.
If you’re talking top 10 most desirable cards in the hobby that’s a totally different story. |
Since I can’t even count to 10, then what credibility is there any list I make?!?! Sure, ditch the 33 Goudey Lajoie, but I like the t206 Doyle (forgot that one). The e107 Matty and Wags are interesting too, as is the e90-1 Jackson. I think if it was top 15, this would be easy. It’s those final 5 in the top 10 that are tough
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We both have a long way still to go. :mad:
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The top ten list from 1980 in no particular order:
T206 Wagner, Plank, Magie 1951 Topps Current All-Stars Konstanty, Roberts, Stanky 1933 Goudey Lajoie 1952 Topps Mantle T207 Loudermilk, Miller Remember, 1980 is pre-grading days. I would include the Four Base Hits Kelly possibly. |
What about the T204 Ramly Walter Johnson? The prices are crazy on that one!
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t206 wagner T206 Doyle T206 plank Balt news Ruth Anson uniform Cobb/Cobb M101-4 Ruth E107 Mathewson Boston garter jackson T210 jackson I am light on 19th century cards. not my area of knowledge. the first 6 or so on the list are no brainers. lots of cards can fill the 7-10 slots. all of them are expensive to ship. |
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For example the cheapest sale on a Lajoie the last couple years was 22k for a PSA 2. A PSA 2 mk CJ Jackson sold for 19k. A PSA 1 CJ Matty sold for 14k. So if we take your list, which presents 11 worthy candidates, how would we choose one or two of these 3? Or do we cut the low pop cards to pick cards that are easier to value? |
Steve, great questions. If we are going pure value, which is what I think the OP asked, I recognize that several on my list will fall away for very rare examples (as you point out). And actually, value should be easy with a little research. I just rattled off what I think are the 11 (bc I cant count) most iconic cards from 1900-1933, many of which will also be most valuable, but some of which will not. As Pete points out, the list for iconic is likely fairly different from most expensive/valuable.
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T206 Wagner
Baltimore News Ruth Anson in Uniform Just So Young 1869 Cincinnati Peck and Snyder TRADE CARD (not more common CdV) Cobb with Cobb back 1860 Brooklyn Atlantic's CdV Cobb W600 Ruth M101-5 Ad back (blank backs less valuable) T210 Jackson All of the above should exceed $100,000 with a number grade. The Buttercream Ruth and Doyle NY could fit also. |
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If the card wouldn't sell for over $100,000 as a PSA1 it should not be on the list. This eliminates the Plank.
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The question was what are the ten most valuable cards, not most valuable cards with ten or more copies. The Just So Young absolutely belongs on the list even though it is currently unique, and the T206 Plank absolutely does not. Supply does not solely determine value. There are plenty of unique cards that don’t carry a six figure price tag.
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Incredible list Jay! A lot of very tough ones there.
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Here is my list. This is assuming that we are not including CDVs and Cabinets that were produced by private studios.
Also, if we are omitting unique cards, then I would switch the 1893 Just So Young with a 1903 E107 Wagner. 1887 N172 Anson In Uniform 1893 Just So Young 1903 E107 Mathewson 1907 W600 Cobb 1909 T206 Doyle NY NL 1909 T206 Wagner 1909-11 T206 Cobb with Cobb Back 1910 T210 Jackson 1914 Baltimore News Ruth 1916 M101-5/4 Ruth |
I am missing more but definitely something to work towards.
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Steven-Good luck on your quest. |
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Oh, there are plenty of cards that have sold for over $100,000 that are not on the list, starting with quite a few California League Old Judges. They just have not approached the $200,000 mark. The Ryder Young has not approached that level either.
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Not saying it should be on the list, but how far off do you think the W600 Wagner street clothes would be?
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On that cue Jay....
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Steven-I love that CdV. It is a very important card and I believe very undervalued.
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Three nobody has mentioned,
P&S Creighton Four Base Hits Kelly 1863 Grand Match at Hoboken Harry Wright All three of these IMO should be on any list. |
I thought so too. I was kind of surprised it didn’t sell for more but I kind of chalked it up to being a little off the beaten path so perhaps less overall interest.
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I agree rats
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Thinking about it now, I would probably put Wagner's W600 Type 1 in Street Clothes on the list and omit the E107s. |
30 years working 7 days/week made it happen for me. Not sure this CDV made it worth it though lol!
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Corey-I thought of adding the Creighton, but I didn’t know when it was issued (just after Creighton’s death or years later) so I did not include it. The Four Base Hits Kelly is a possibility. I don’t think the Grand Match ticket of Wright is worth enough to fall on the list. When it was listed in REA a few years ago it could not get an opening bid and was eventually pulled. I think it is a $50-$100,000 card which falls short in value. Two other possibilities are the Wright and Spalding Mort Rogers scorecards, but again they fall slightly short. Two other possibilities are the unique Ewing Kalamazoo Bat or the unique Ewing portrait N173. There is also the Peggy Popcorn Ruth.
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I don’t have the energy to post mine!
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Go back to the original question, the list is based on value of the lowest grade example. Neither the E107 Wagner nor the W600 Wagner make the list according to the OP’s criteria.
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So it sounds like the value is about $170,000 which would be a just miss. I do think the E107 Matty, Wagner and Young are great cards. However, they also aren’t quite valuable enough to make the list.
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