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Peter_Spaeth 11-25-2019 11:10 AM

Frank Gore
 
I doubt most people have even heard of him. He is now the #3 all time NFL rusher.

commishbob 11-25-2019 11:24 AM

He's been very durable over the years, hardly missing a game. Given the beating RBs take it's always a surprise when someone plays 15 years, most of them as a bell cow back.

D. Bergin 11-25-2019 11:48 AM

Gore also just passed Marshall Faulk into 4th All-Time for Yards from Scrimmage. Very durable, very under-rated. A tough, tough guy.

clydepepper 11-26-2019 09:11 PM

I still remember when he tore up his knee at Miami - I thought he was done.

however...

Barry Sanders is still the best I ever saw.


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Peter_Spaeth 11-26-2019 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clydepepper (Post 1934296)
I still remember when he tore up his knee at Miami - I thought he was done.

however...

Barry Sanders is still the best I ever saw.


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Not to diminish Sanders, but I'd go with Bo.

Orioles1954 11-27-2019 11:27 AM

Frank Gore is an outstanding, workman running back. Should be a Hall of Famer.

commishbob 11-27-2019 11:37 AM

The 12,000 yard club. "+" = Hall of Fame. Gore and Peterson active. They should both make HoF. I think Edgerrin James will get there as well.


1 Emmitt Smith+ 18,355 1990-2004 2TM
2 Walter Payton+ 16,726 1975-1987 chi
3 Frank Gore 15,289 2005-2019 4TM
4 Barry Sanders+ 15,269 1989-1998 det
5 Curtis Martin+ 14,101 1995-2005 2TM
6 Adrian Peterson 13,861 2007-2019 4TM
7 LaDainian Tomlinson+ 13,684 2001-2011 2TM
8 Jerome Bettis+ 13,662 1993-2005 2TM
9 Eric Dickerson+ 13,259 1983-1993 4TM
10 Tony Dorsett+ 12,739 1977-1988 2TM
11 Jim Brown+ 12,312 1957-1965 cle
12 Marshall Faulk+ 12,279 1994-2005 2TM
13 Edgerrin James 12,246 1999-2009 3TM
14 Marcus Allen+ 12,243 1982-1997 2TM
15 Franco Harris+ 12,120 1972-1984 2TM
16 Thurman Thomas+ 12,074 1988-2000 2TM

D. Bergin 11-27-2019 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clydepepper (Post 1934296)
I still remember when he tore up his knee at Miami - I thought he was done.

however...

Barry Sanders is still the best I ever saw.


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I remember that happening to Willis McGahee (another Bills RB) at Miami, did that also happen with Gore?

Agree on Sanders.

D. Bergin 11-27-2019 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1934299)
Not to diminish Sanders, but I'd go with Bo.

Small sample size, but Bo was devastating for as long as he lasted. Like Gale Sayers but in a different way. The body was just not made to do the things he was doing for any length of time.

Peter_Spaeth 11-27-2019 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D. Bergin (Post 1934418)
Small sample size, but Bo was devastating for as long as he lasted. Like Gale Sayers but in a different way. The body was just not made to do the things he was doing for any length of time.

I've never seen a back that fast who could also just run right over or through people because he was so strong.

clydepepper 11-27-2019 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D. Bergin (Post 1934417)
I remember that happening to Willis McGahee (another Bills RB) at Miami, did that also happen with Gore?

Agree on Sanders.



You may be right...I'm just guessing at this stage. :eek:

2dueces 11-29-2019 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D. Bergin (Post 1934418)
Small sample size, but Bo was devastating for as long as he lasted. Like Gale Sayers but in a different way. The body was just not made to do the things he was doing for any length of time.

Bo Jackson was the greatest all around athlete I have ever seen. Played football as a hobby. Just look at the film of his throw from the warning track to home. Hit H’s with ease and ran over or around defenders. Plus he was the fastest man on the field. Bo knows.

clydepepper 11-29-2019 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2dueces (Post 1934810)
Bo Jackson was the greatest all around athlete I have ever seen. Played football as a hobby. Just look at the film of his throw from the warning track to home. Hit H’s with ease and ran over or around defenders. Plus he was the fastest man on the field. Bo knows.


I totally agree with you on Bo...definitely the best athlete a lot of us ever saw.

However, even with his short career skewing a true comparison, I'll stick with Barry Sanders as the best running back I ever saw.



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Peter_Spaeth 11-30-2019 09:27 AM

I always had the impression, and it may have been skewed from a couple of games I saw where he did nothing, that Sanders was considerably less special on grass than on turf.

Aquarian Sports Cards 11-30-2019 01:47 PM

Frank Gore is the Tony Perez of Football. He put up excellent numbers for a very long time but HOF numbers in a season maybe once or twice.

Peter with roughly an even split between grass and turf during Barry's career it shouldn't be hard to confirm or bust that bias.

D. Bergin 12-01-2019 04:06 PM

Barry averaged 4.98 yards per carry at home and 4.99 yards per carry on the road.

Not a perfect turf vs. non-turf split, but as much as I'm willing to spend time researching. ;)

Peter_Spaeth 12-01-2019 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D. Bergin (Post 1935315)
Barry averaged 4.98 yards per carry at home and 4.99 yards per carry on the road.

Not a perfect turf vs. non-turf split, but as much as I'm willing to spend time researching. ;)

I think I am probably generalizing from a couple of miserable games I saw him play on grass.

the 'stache 12-03-2019 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1934299)
Not to diminish Sanders, but I'd go with Bo.

Not to diminish Bo, but I'd go with Jim. I never saw him play live, but I've seen plenty of video. Brown did what Bo did for a full career, back when the NFL was really football.

clydepepper 12-04-2019 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1935318)
I think I am probably generalizing from a couple of miserable games I saw him play on grass.

...behind an equally miserable offensive line. He probably ran longer on many short runs where there was no hole offered...many times only getting back to the line of scrimmage, but saving losses.

I'm not saying he never lost yardage, just that he lost far less than he should have.

He evaded tackles like he was made of butter - I just made that up, but it was true.

As far as the turf/grass argument, he would have done just as well on the up escalator or a gravel road.

Peter_Spaeth 12-04-2019 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the 'stache (Post 1935709)
Not to diminish Bo, but I'd go with Jim. I never saw him play live, but I've seen plenty of video. Brown did what Bo did for a full career, back when the NFL was really football.

It's hard to make a serious argument against Jim Brown. In terms of pure power, a young Earl Campbell is right up there too. As I recall he also was quite fast, though his style was definitely to run over people.

Rhotchkiss 12-13-2019 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1933932)
I doubt most people have even heard of him. He is now the #3 all time NFL rusher.

Frank Gore, and has been for years, my favorite active player. He is a class act, a leader, a hard worker and one hell of a player. You would never think he is third, but he did it slow and steady, proving you can move mountains one shovel-full at a time. Gore is great!!

And PS - I have been a die hard broncos fan since the early 1980’s, so not a homer or 49ers fan

Stampsfan 12-16-2019 12:44 AM

Anyone who can play that game at that level for 15 years is something special.

JollyElm 12-17-2019 06:37 PM

He's had a great leadership presence on my Bills. Go Buffalooooo!!!!!!!!!

999Tony 01-07-2020 09:18 PM

Derrick Henry in last game against the Patriots best game I’ve ever seen from a rb great cuts overpowering and even decent speed- I remember bo and Barry and Marcus Allen having spectacular runs in games but not dominating a good defense like that to the extent Henry did— but maybe I have a bad memory :)


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