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PolarBear 07-05-2019 04:30 PM

Sovereign 150 Series Question
 
I've been looking at the T206 Resource website and they say that there are exactly 150 subjects for the Sovereign 150 series. Looking at the Sovereign thread here, there are 151 subjects listed in the 150 series.

So, the first question is: Are there 150 or 151 Sovereign 150 subjects?

Also, T206 Resource makes an interesting claim that these 150 subjects are the original subjects of the 150 series before any additions and substitutions. They say that there are 159 total subjects in the 150 series when you count the additions (Wagner, Plank, etc.) and substitutions (Dahlen, Elberfield, etc.).

The 150 series is my favorite part of T206 and that was the first I've heard that it may be possible to determine what the original 150 subjects actually are.

So, my other questions are: What do the experts here believe about the original 150 subjects? Is it possible there really were exactly 150 in the beginning, or have there always been more than 150 from day 1?

tedzan 07-05-2019 05:54 PM

SOVEREIGN 150 Series checklist
 
150 subjects

Abbaticchio (brown sleeves)
Alperman
Ames (portrait)
Ames (hands at chest)
Ball (New York)
Bates
Beaumont
Bell (hands above head)
Bender (portrait)
Bergen (batting)
Birmingham
Bowerman
Bradley (portrait)
Bransfield
Bresnahan (portrait)
Bridwell (portrait - no cap)
M. Brown (Cubs)
M. Brown (Portrait)
G. Brown(e) (Chicago)
Burch (batting)

Camnitz (arms folded)
Chance (portrait - red)
Chase (portrait - pink)
Chase (white cap)
Chesbro
Cicotte
F. Clarke (portrait)
F. Clarke (holding bat)
J.J. Clarke (Cleveland)
Cobb (portrait - green)
Cobb (bat on shoulder)
Conroy (fielding)
Covaleski
Crandall (portrait - no cap)
Criger
Criss
Dahlen (Boston)
George Davis (Chicago)
H. Davis (A's)
Delehanty (Washington)

Devlin
Donlin (fielding)
Donlin (seated)
Donohue\
Donovan (portrait)
Dooin
Doolin
Dougherty (portrait)
Larry Doyle (throwing)
Durham
Elberfeld (portrait -New York)
Evers (Cubs-batting)
Evers (portrait)
Ewing
Ferris
Flick
Ganley
Gibson
Gilbert
Goode

Griffith (portrait)
Hahn
Hemphill
Herzog (New York)
Hinchman (Cleveland)
Isbell
Jacklitsch
Johnson (portrait)
T. Jones (St. Louis)
F. Jones (portrait)
F. Jones (hands on hips)
T. Jordan (portrait)
Joss (portrait)
Karger
Keeler (portrait)
Keeler (batting)
Killian (pitching)
Kleinow (batting)
Kling
Konetchy (glove high)

Lajoie (portrait)
Lajoie (throwing)
Lake (New York)
Leach (portrait)
Leifield (pitching)
Liebhardt
Lindaman
Lobert
Lumley
Magee (portrait)
Manning (batting)
Marquard (hands at thighs)
Mathewson (portrait)
Mathewson (white cap)
McGraw (portrait - no cap)
McGraw (finger in air)
Harry McIntyre (Brooklyn)
McQuillan (ball in hand)
Merkle (portrait)
Mullin (throwing)

Murphy (throwing)
Nicholls
Niles
Oldring (fielding)
O’Leary (portrait)
Overall (portrait)
Owen
Parent
Pastorius
Pattee
Pelty (horizontal)
Powell
Powers
Reulbach (glove)
Ritchey
Rucker (portrait)
Schaefer (Detroit)
Schlei (catching)
Schmidt (throwing)
Schulte (front view)

Seymour (batting)
Shaw (St. Louis)
Sheckard (no glove)
Shipke
F. Smith (Chicago)
Spade
Spencer
Stahl (no glove)
Steinfeldt (portrait)
Stone
Stovall (portrait)
Sullivan
L. Tannehill
Tenney
Tinker (portrait)
Tinker (hands on knees)
Turner
Waddell (portrait)
Waddell (throwing)
Wagner (bat on left)

Wallace
Walsh
Weimer
Doc White (portrait)
Wilhelm (hands at chest)
Williams
Willis (Pittsburg)
Wiltse (portrait - no cap)
CYoung (portrait)
CYoung (bare hand)


TED Z

T206 Reference
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PolarBear 07-05-2019 06:25 PM

Thanks Ted,. What do you think about those 150 being the original 150?

tedzan 07-05-2019 06:42 PM

Don

My understanding is that American Lithographic originally printed the PIEDMONT 150 cards,
which would include these 6 additional subjects...…

Crawford (throwing)
Jennings (portrait)
Lundgren (Cubs)
Magie
Plank
Honus Wagner

And, the SOVEREIGN 150 Series cards were printed in a subsequent press run.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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