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larietrope 06-21-2019 11:17 AM

1952 Mantle purchase question
 
Like a lot of us a 52 Mantle would be on our wish list. I'm considering a PSA3. To say I've owned one and thinking that I. or a family member in the future, could recover at least the cost.
If you were considering this what would your thoughts be ?
Thanks.

Peter_Spaeth 06-21-2019 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by larietrope (Post 1891265)
Like a lot of us a 52 Mantle would be on our wish list. I'm considering a PSA3. To say I've owned one and thinking that I. or a family member in the future, could recover at least the cost.
If you were considering this what would your thoughts be ?
Thanks.

It will always be a very top tier card IMO, and I think a lower grade is probably a safer purchase than a higher grade.

bnorth 06-21-2019 11:25 AM

Eye appeal, eye appeal, eye appeal. Good print registration and good color would be what I would look for. Personally I would also want it to have a major flaw that did not bother you. The flaw would make it much cheaper. That is what i done with my 52 Topps Mathews.

Things I would not pay a premium for is being in a PSA slab. There is no way i would pay any premium for the centering hype that has lasted way longer than normal this time around.

nsaddict 06-21-2019 11:26 AM

Or for almost the same price and condition you could get all 4 Goudey Ruth’s.

GasHouseGang 06-21-2019 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by nsaddict (Post 1891273)
Or for almost the same price and condition you could get all 4 Goudey Ruth’s.

Wow, I never thought of it like that. :eek:

bnorth 06-21-2019 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by nsaddict (Post 1891273)
Or for almost the same price and condition you could get all 4 Goudey Ruth’s.

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Originally Posted by GasHouseGang (Post 1891278)
Wow, I never thought of it like that. :eek:

Why would you want 4 cards of a guy who is in the top 3 all time when you could have a second year Mantle card? It makes sense as long as you don't really think about it.;)

Goudey77 06-21-2019 01:31 PM

In my opinion I would have a difficult time paying the current prices seeing what the 52 Mantles sold for just going back to the 2013-2014 time frame.

You could have purchased a PSA 3 for less than $10k I believe.
There are far too many copies of this card to support the prices long term.
You would fair better if you waited. That's just my 2 cents.

Peter_Spaeth 06-21-2019 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Goudey77 (Post 1891306)
In my opinion I would have a difficult time paying the current prices seeing what the 52 Mantles sold for just going back to the 2013-2014 time frame.

You could have purchased a PSA 3 for less than $10k I believe.
There are far too many copies of this card to support the prices long term.
You would fair better if you waited. That's just my 2 cents.

People said the same when I bought my midgrade in 2014. It's probably doubled since then. It's very hard to time any market or to buy at next year's prices.

Goudey77 06-21-2019 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1891310)
People said the same when I bought my midgrade in 2014. It's probably doubled since then. It's very hard to time any market or to buy at next year's prices.

I mean wait a decade if you need to :D
I'd take my chances. There are enough copies floating around that it will never be unattainable.

bnorth 06-21-2019 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Goudey77 (Post 1891311)
I mean wait a decade if you need to :D
I'd take my chances. There are enough copies floating around that it will never be unattainable.

I have been saying the same thing since the 80's. I wish I would have bought one then because the card seems to defy logic.

Goudey77 06-21-2019 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 1891312)
I have been saying the same thing since the 80's. I wish I would have bought one then because the card seems to defy logic.

Well you have not waited long enough then. Stay patient my friend...
The baby boomer fanatics will sell off eventually.

pokerplyr80 06-21-2019 02:09 PM

I think the chances of this card decreasing in value much at all are not great, especially if you find a nice high eye appeal 3. There will always be haters on this board, but the 52 Mantle is the most iconic card in the hobby. Go for it if that's what you want. You won't be disappointed with the card.

ALR-bishop 06-21-2019 02:16 PM

Being a variations guy I had to have both versions. Glad I did not wait. Seems like folks who say wait are usually the ones still waiting :)

drcy 06-21-2019 02:29 PM

If you have your heart set on owning one, I would consider it a safe investment for the kids.

Though the 51 Bowman is also a good choice.

Promethius88 06-21-2019 02:29 PM

Simple, buy one now. If the price drastically decreases down the road, buy another one.... and so on. Just keep lowering your average!

pokerplyr80 06-21-2019 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Promethius88 (Post 1891326)
Simple, buy one now. If the price drastically decreases down the road, buy another one.... and so on. Just keep lowering your average!

Hard to disagree with this strategy. I certainly wouldn't mind a couple more 52 Mantles in the collection.

Goudey77 06-21-2019 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 1891321)
Being a variations guy I had to have both versions. Glad I did not wait. Seems like folks who say wait are usually the ones still waiting :)

:D
Does anyone know where I can find a PSA 4.5 at a deep discount?

Goudey77 06-21-2019 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Promethius88 (Post 1891326)
Simple, buy one now. If the price drastically decreases down the road, buy another one.... and so on. Just keep lowering your average!

Sounds like the precious metal stackers. Keep stacking at all price levels.

GasHouseGang 06-21-2019 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 1891312)
I have been saying the same thing since the 80's. I wish I would have bought one then because the card seems to defy logic.

You and me both, Ben. I passed when it was below $1000 because it had fallen from above $3000 and I didn't think it would go back up to those levels! Duh!:p

Promethius88 06-21-2019 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Goudey77 (Post 1891342)
Sounds like the precious metal stackers. Keep stacking at all price levels.

Lol, exactly! My father was a coin dealer so I grew up with this mentality on gold and silver.

GaryPassamonte 06-21-2019 04:35 PM

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The demand will always exceed the number of 52 Topps Mantles available. It is not a rare card, but the supply is only in the low thousands, I believe. It has become an iconic piece of Americana and is collected by non-sports collectors, also. Call it the poor man's T206 Wagner.

Here's your PSA 4.5

Leon 06-23-2019 03:54 PM

'52 Mantle
 
I had one before I went back to only pre war stuff. I looked for great aesthetics much more than the grade. If you can find a good buy on a 1-3 grade level, you should be fine in the future. I would focus on the card more than the TPG or flip, but that is just me. The hunt is always a lot of the fun so good luck if you go for it! (and let us know when and if you do)

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Originally Posted by larietrope (Post 1891265)
Like a lot of us a 52 Mantle would be on our wish list. I'm considering a PSA3. To say I've owned one and thinking that I. or a family member in the future, could recover at least the cost.
If you were considering this what would your thoughts be ?
Thanks.


pokerplyr80 06-23-2019 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by drcy (Post 1891325)
If you have your heart set on owning one, I would consider it a safe investment for the kids.

Though the 51 Bowman is also a good choice.

You really can't go wrong either way.

ullmandds 06-23-2019 04:43 PM

And the best part is that chances are whether you buy a bowman...or a topps...there's a good chance the card has been to the doctor!!!!!

samosa4u 06-23-2019 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1892064)
And the best part is that chances are whether you buy a bowman...or a topps...there's a good chance the card has been to the doctor!!!!!

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner!

Popcorn 06-23-2019 08:11 PM

I did the exact same thing a few years ago, bought the nicest PSA 3 I could find. You won’t regret it.


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