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danmckee 04-29-2019 05:50 AM

NOT an E122
 
Would someone else be so kind as to write this gent and inform him that no matter what PSA says this card is an E121 NOT an E122?

He doesn't believe me and I think he would have a better chance of selling his tough E121 series of Eighty if he titles it correctly.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1922-E122-A...8AAOSwxoJcRRl9

Thank you kindly

Dan Mckee

Steve L 04-29-2019 06:24 AM

I wrote to him about it quite awhile ago. Obviously, he did not take my advice.

Snapolit1 04-29-2019 07:09 AM

Obviously he doesn't give a sh-t and is happy to take advantage of the situation.

buymycards 04-29-2019 08:56 AM

E121
 
I remember when I first started collecting vintage cards. I purchased what I thought was a blue background Sporting Life card. I sent it to PSA and they graded it as a blue background. I listed it on eBay as a blue background and I started receiving messages from people who were telling me that this was not a blue background card.

I had never heard of Net54 at the time, so my thinking was that these people were trying to get me to lower the price on my card. After all, PSA is a well respected grading company and they have graded millions of cards, so why should I believe these yahoos who were telling me that the card was incorrectly labeled? Now I know that PSA often has their head up their ass while they are grading cards and that the true experts are right here on Net54.

The thing that is strange about this situation is that the Standard Catalog lists the exact same price for the E122 Daubert as it does for the E121 Daubert, so it shouldn't be a money thing that is preventing him from changing his listing. His price does seem to be quite high for a PSA 2.

Rick

danmckee 04-29-2019 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by buymycards (Post 1873626)
I remember when I first started collecting vintage cards. I purchased what I thought was a blue background Sporting Life card. I sent it to PSA and they graded it as a blue background. I listed it on eBay as a blue background and I started receiving messages from people who were telling me that this was not a blue background card.

I had never heard of Net54 at the time, so my thinking was that these people were trying to get me to lower the price on my card. After all, PSA is a well respected grading company and they have graded millions of cards, so why should I believe these yahoos who were telling me that the card was incorrectly labeled? Now I know that PSA often has their head up their ass while they are grading cards and that the true experts are right here on Net54.

The thing that is strange about this situation is that the Standard Catalog lists the exact same price for the E122 Daubert as it does for the E121 Daubert, so it shouldn't be a money thing that is preventing him from changing his listing. His price does seem to be quite high for a PSA 2.

Rick


I agree Rick, both are fairly tough and priced about the same. It is just a collector may be looking for that E121 series of Eighty they need and they will never see this one.

Leon 04-30-2019 08:53 AM

We have more experience at vintage than PSA does. As we all know E122s are much scarcer than E121s. But scarcity alone doesn't equal value. It is all about the demand side of the equation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by buymycards (Post 1873626)
I remember when I first started collecting vintage cards. I purchased what I thought was a blue background Sporting Life card. I sent it to PSA and they graded it as a blue background. I listed it on eBay as a blue background and I started receiving messages from people who were telling me that this was not a blue background card.

I had never heard of Net54 at the time, so my thinking was that these people were trying to get me to lower the price on my card. After all, PSA is a well respected grading company and they have graded millions of cards, so why should I believe these yahoos who were telling me that the card was incorrectly labeled? Now I know that PSA often has their head up their ass while they are grading cards and that the true experts are right here on Net54.

The thing that is strange about this situation is that the Standard Catalog lists the exact same price for the E122 Daubert as it does for the E121 Daubert, so it shouldn't be a money thing that is preventing him from changing his listing. His price does seem to be quite high for a PSA 2.

Rick


Steve L 09-22-2019 10:04 AM

For sale again, hope the buyer sends it to PSA to repackage.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1922-E122-A...0AAOSw2gNdgpyX

murphy8276 09-24-2019 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1873919)
We have more experience at vintage than PSA does. As we all know E122s are much scarcer than E121s. But scarcity alone doesn't equal value. It is all about the demand side of the equation.

Why are these cards not valuable, yet? I realize demand is not there, but why the heck not. Tons of other pre war issues are less scarce and have more following. *I bought a grouping of these eons ago and just do not think that they will pan out any longer.

sreader3 09-24-2019 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by murphy8276 (Post 1919112)
Why are these cards not valuable, yet? I realize demand is not there, but why the heck not. Tons of other pre war issues are less scarce and have more following. *I bought a grouping of these eons ago and just do not think that they will pan out any longer.

There is a premium paid for cards in sets residing at the scarcity "sweet spot." Enough supply to keep hundreds of set collectors motivated, but not so much to trivialize the pursuit. Also, many collectors simply don't like black-and-white issues. My kids won't watch black-and-white movies, so no surprise there.

Leon 09-25-2019 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sreader3 (Post 1919149)
There is a premium paid for cards in sets residing at the scarcity "sweet spot." Enough supply to keep hundreds of set collectors motivated, but not so much to trivialize the pursuit. Also, many collectors simply don't like black-and-white issues. My kids won't watch black-and-white movies, so no surprise there.

+1 ....as a type card collector of some of the scarcer cards in the hobby I can absolutely state that scarcity doesn't equate to value as much as demand does. E122s just don't have the demand as there aren't tons of collectors going after the set such as there are for T205 and T206 etc...

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Aquarian Sports Cards 09-25-2019 09:37 AM

I remember getting a bunch of E126's at auction and being mad that the world didn't appreciate how rare (and fragile!) they are. Think I still have two left.

ullmandds 09-25-2019 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1919204)
I remember getting a bunch of E126's at auction and being mad that the world didn't appreciate how rare (and fragile!) they are. Think I still have two left.

ya...as a former type collector this used to piss me off too!!!!! But of my ruth's...an e121 and a worse conditioned e122...I sold the e121!

I've always coveted rarity over mainstream.

Leon 09-26-2019 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1919204)
I remember getting a bunch of E126's at auction and being mad that the world didn't appreciate how rare (and fragile!) they are. Think I still have two left.

+1 ...E126s are on such thin stock that anything above a 3 is high grade (to me). My only current one...(or two LOL)....btw I still see TPG mistakes almost weekly concerning E121 vs E122

http://luckeycards.com/e126.jpg

Aquarian Sports Cards 09-26-2019 10:20 AM

That ghost is similar to the Sam Rice E126 I sold Val Kehl. The highest I've ever had was a couple 4's I got at the aforementioned auction. I got them raw and was thrilled to get 4's!


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