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Hand Cut Clementes (from packaging?)
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Hi yall. Here are some better pics of some Clementes that I think are cut from some sort of box or package.
The B&W one is thinner than card stock and the Yellow one is slightly thicker than the B&W. Any theories on what these are? I don’t believe they are modern fantasy pieces but I have been wrong before. |
No idea but your ruler rules.
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Clemente with signature reminds me of Kahn's hot dogs cards, but most of those have writing or stats on back.
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The one kneeling is a picture used for a team issue and team issued 8x10s from the mid 60s. The portrait was used for team photos in the 70s. I have no idea what they were cut from, but I would suspect something that came directly from the Pirates as they are photos being re-used.
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See attached example of 1963 or 1964 5x7 Team issue with the one pose - as Rats points out there was an 8x10 issued of the same image. Also a Ballantine 8x10 beer promo using the same image.
The other images are of unidentified origin, likely various team issues for various publicity events. These are mostly about 3 1/2 x 5 1/2. The image itself is obviously a much later (1971-1972) one based on the jersey he is wearing. I am curious if the signature on the one image you have is a facsimile or ink? I have not seen those exact crops that I can recall. So outside of what I have shared am unable to shed more light on your items. Did you get them directly from Jim? If so, did he share anything more about them? He was a very big Clemente fan. Hope that helps. Howard Ps - Purely speculating - given their small size and lack of any other identifying information I think it unlikely that they were cut from any type of packaging - I think it more likely they might have been cut from a magazine or publication of some kind. |
Thanks for the info Howard. Much appreciated. They went from Jim to Rich to me. I had a chance to ask him at the last show I did(2 years ago. Yikes)but it completely slipped my mind. I was more excited to sell him something(a team issue SMU set with a Hayden Fry) he hadn’t ever seen. Plus I got to hear all the stories about my dad in the hobby back in the day. I was like a kid in a candy store, too much info I hadn’t heard before. My favorite was hearing that my dad literally threw Mr. Mint out of a show for being a douche.
I love this board because of the knowledge that is shared openly here. I’m 100% that it is a facsimile on the B&W. |
1971 Milk Duds
My gut tells me that the sepia toned card is a 1971 Milk Duds card. Someone did a nice job cutting outside the brown border.
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https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1971...&size=original
1971 Milk Duds - [Base] #ROCL - Roberto Clemente Courtesy of COMC.com |
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