Another Rip-Off Attempt
 

As I was mindlessly trolling through Ebay, trying to figure out why the powers to be dropped the pre-war category, I stumbled across one of the more egregious attempts at misrepresentation/fraud I've seen in a while. Sorry again for lack of scanning, but the card in question is a Baltimore News rookie Ruth. no less, and the vendor is monlui.rvpw7p who has a 95% ratio on 106 feedbacks.
His story is the same old blither, nothing at all believable. His only prior card sale was a raw '48 Leaf Ruth, which went for about $100. The buyer, uhh shill, gave him glowing feedback. This was the dress rehearsal before the big score.
Ebay should pay the Board for our card security work.

Here's the link:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/162700791371

Not my listing, nor do I know the seller.

I will never be ok with that terminology on a flip. A question mark is not an opinion ..If a TPG thinks it's fake say it's fake!! :cool:.... (I realize it's been discussed but it still hasn't been fixed.)

A question mark is not an opinion.
 

Leon,
Would showing PSA that Ebay listing and how the seller uses it as credibility toward getting a buyer for it, as well as people on this card collecting forum feeling it's helping to sell these "fakes", do anything to help PSA makes changes?

That thing aint never gonna sell for $5K - Only a moron would bid on it.

I doubt it. PSA hasn't been responsive to this issue AND it is an issue, imo..... Maybe they don't think it's one?

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So, the flip is real and issued by PSA?

Good question...
 

...counterfeit cards are an E-Bay buyers' problem ; forged flips/labels are a PSA problem and the fedder alleys have an interest in forged TM'ed copyrighted pieces of paper.....but first they must be made aware of the situation ; I imagine Joe O. has at least one attorney for things like this.....he said hopefully..

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I wish PSA would simply stop issuing those flips. Perhaps they could instead send the card back to the owner with a short form letter:

"...this item does not meet our standards..."

Yes the flip is real. When a counterfeit card is caught by PSA they put the sticker/flip on the card saver they received the card in. I got these 2 flips from a guy that tried to get 2 counterfeits past PSA.