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Fighters w/o cards or with few cards?
In my perpetual quest for stuff, I have been looking for career-contemporary cards of some HOF boxers who I just cannot seem to find on cards Anyone have any ideas on these:
Charley Burley Miguel Canto Antonio Cervantes Bobby Chacon Khaosai Galaxy Humberto Gonzalez Cocoa Kid Ismael Laguna Ricardo Lopez Lloyd Marshall Eusebio Pedroza Luis Rodriguez Daniel Zaragosa Carlos Zarate |
Ricardo Lopez was in the Japan World Boxing Set issued in February 1996.
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Wish I could find a list, and I don't know if you'd consider them "cards", but "Boxing Beat" magazine might have had a couple of those guys in a back cover card "cut-out" in the late 80's.
I know I've run across them and considered them pretty neat, but never thought to remove them from the magazine. |
Cut-out card issues have a long history. Heck, the first two Ali cards are cut from publications (1960 Hemmets and 1962 Rekord). If you have any I'd like to see them.
JWB and Gong have knocked quite a few off my HOF list, not to mention the Pac-Man and B-Hop RCs. They are pretty nice cards. http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...20Pacquiao.JPG http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...cquiao%202.JPG http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...%20Hopkins.JPG Here's the 1996 JWB Zarate; might be his RC even though he'd retired by that point: http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...g%20Zarate.jpg These are 1981 RCs from Japan's Gong Magazine, stickers actually: http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...g%20Hearns.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...20Arguello.jpg And a 1982 Gong Salvador Sanchez issued a few months before his death: http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...0Sanchez_1.JPG |
Oh, cut-outs are fine. Just wasn't sure where some people draw the line. I made a point of questioning the Boxing Beat cards because they don't have a traditional back. Just the back of the magazine ad, even though the fronts appear to be designed to be cut out.
Yes, the Japan World Boxing are really nice cards. I have a bunch of sheets of them laying around here. Galaxy is also in that set, but several years after he retired. Here's the entire list minus panels #26, #28, #31, #39. If somebody wants to fill those in. Wish I could remember where I lifted this from so I could give credit. Panel #1 (Feb 1996) - 1: Hiroshi Kawashima - 2: Shiro Yahiro - 3: Ricardo Lopez - 4: Muhammad Ali Panel #2 (Mar 1996) - 5: Takato Toguchi - 6: Tatsufumi Itoh - 7: Orzubek "Gussie" Nazarov - 8: Joe Louis Panel #3 (Apr 1996) - 9: Yuji Watanabe - 10: Setsuo Kawamasu - 11: Eloy Rojas - 12: Henry Armstrong Panel #4 (May 1996) - 13: Yuichi Kasai - 14: Hiroyuki Yoshino - 15: Juan Martin Coggi - 16: Sugar Ray Robinson Panel #5 (June 1996) - 17: Yuri Arbachakov - 18: Yasushi Arai - 19: Seaen Sow Ploenchit - 20: Joe Frazier Panel #6 (July 1996) - 21: Koji Matsumoto - 22: Shinji Takehara - 23: Archie Moore - 24: Costya Tszyu Panel #7 (Aug 1996) - 25: Hiromu Kuwata - 26: Keiji Yamaguchi - 27: Gabriel "Flash" Elorde - 28: William Joppy Panel #8 (Sept 1996) - 29: Jintoku Sato - 30: Yoko Gushiken - 31: Wilfredo Vasquez - 32: Gene Tunney Panel #9 (Oct 1996) - 33: Rick Yoshimura - 34: Luisito "Koizumi" Espinosa - 35: Yamato Mitani - 36: Yoshio Shirai Panel #10 (Nov 1996) - 37: Kyoshiro Fuqushima - 38: Hiroki Ioka - 39: Carlos Zarate - 40: Saman Sow Jaturong Panel #11 (Dec 1996) - 41: Satoshi Iida - 42: Joichiro "Joe" Tatsuyoshi - 43: Yong-Soo Choi - 44: Jack Johnson Panel #12 (Jan 1997) - 45: Hiroyuki Sakamoto - 46: Hisashi Teraji - 47: Terrible Terry Norris - 48: Salvador Sanchez Panel #13 (Feb 1997) - 49: Yosukezan Nishijima - 50: Keitaro Hoshino - 51: Ratanapol Dutchboy-GYM - 52: Jose "Mantequilla" Napoles Panel #14 (Mar 1997) - 53: Takanori Hatakeyama - 54: Akira Ohigashi - 55: Johnny Tapia - 56: Sugar Ray Leonard Panel #15 (Apr 1997) - 57: Kevin Palmer - 58: Koji Arisawa - 59: Pitchit Chorsiriwat - 60: Bob Fitzsimmons Panel #16 (May 1997) - 61: Minoru Horiuchi - 62: Kazu Arisawa - 63: Naseem Hamed - 64: Pancho Villa Panel #17 (June 1997) - 65: Hidenobu Honda - 66: Rocky Lin - 67: Barney Ross - 68: Oscar De La Hoya Panel #18 (July 1997) - 69: Yoshinori Nishizawa - 70: Kabato Suzuki - 71: Hideyuki Ohashi - 72: Antonio Cermeno Panel #19 (Aug 1997) - 73: Mangoro Ishimaru - 74: Jiro Matsushima - 75: Tsuyoshi Hamada - 76: Genaro Hernandez Panel #20 (Sept 1997) - 77: Gerry Penalosa - 78: Makato Nakahara - 79: Shin Yamato - 80: Emile Griffith Panel #21 (Oct 1997) - 81: Yoshiaki Matsukura - 82: Takashi Koshimoto - 83: Luisito Espinosa - 84: Masahiko "Fighting" Harada Panel #22 (Nov 1997) - 85: Junichi Ono - 86: Nobutoshi Hiranaka - 87: Chatchai Datchboy-Gym - 88: Bob Foster Panel #23 (Dec 1997) - 89: Hisao Arai - 90: Akihiko Nago - 91: Chang Jung-koo - 92: Steve Johnston Panel #24 (Jan 1998) - 93: Yosukezan Nishijima - 94: Go Kaneuchi - 95: Jose Bonilla - 96: Carlos Monzon Panel #25 (Feb 1998) - 97: Masahiko Nakamura - 98: Yasuei Yakushiji - 99: Felix Trinidad - 100: Jack Dempsey Panel #26 (Mar 1998) - Unknown Panel #27 (Apr 1998) - 105: Luis "Yory Boy" Campas - 106: Shin Yamato - 107: German Torres - 108: Yutaka Manabe Panel #28 (May 1998) - Unknown Panel #29 (June 1998) - 113: Hiroyuki Maeda - 114: Yasuo "Wolf" Tokimitsu - 115: Shane "Sugar" Mosley - 116: Sandy Saddler Panel #30 (July 1998) - 117: Satoru Abe - 118: Masayuki Takeda - 119: Khaosai Galaxy - 120: Manuel 'Mantecas' Medina Panel #31 (Aug 1998) - Unknown Panel #32 (Sept 1998) - 125: Kengo Nagashima - 126: Isaac Sentuwa - 127: Lennox Lewis - 128: Yoshiaki Numata Panel #33 (Oct 1998) - 129: Junichi Ono - 130: Ryuhei Sugita - 131: Bernard Hopkins - 132: Gilberto Roman Panel #34 (Nov 1998) - 133: Toshiharu Kayama - 134: Toshiaki Nishioka - 135: Erik "Terrible" Morales - 136: Jeff Fenech Panel #35 (Dec 1998) - 137: Kengo Nagashima - 138: Takanori Hatakeyama - 139: Juan Carlos Gomez - 140: Terry McGovern Panel #36 (Feb 1999) - 141: Shozi "Celes" Kobayashi - 142: Nobunao Ootani - 143: Manny Pacquiao - 144: Willie Pep Panel #37 (Mar 1999) - 145: Hideki Todaka - 146: Toshiaki Nishioka - 147: Laurent Boudouani - 148: Pascual Perez Panel #38 (Apr 1999) - 149: Phaniang Okuda - 150: Hiroshi Nakajima - 151: Roberto Garcia - 152: Paul Takeshi Fuji Panel #39 (May 1999) - Unknown Panel #40 (June 1999) - 157:Akira Ohigashi - 158: Senrima Chol-ho - 159: Artur Grigorijan - 160: Leopard Tamakuma Panel #41 (July 1999) - 161: Naotaka Hozumi - 162: Takashi Koshimoto - 163: Veerapol Nakornloung Promotion - 164: Miguel Canto Panel #42 (Aug 1999) - 165: Akihiko Nago - 166: Yoshinori Nishizawa - 167: Fred Norwood - 168: Yuh Myung-Woo Panel #43 (Sept 1999) - 169: Kohji Arisawa - 170: Kazuhiro Ryuko - 171: Azumah Nelson - 172: Wandee Shinwancha Panel #44 (Oct 1999) - 173: Makoto Suzuki - 174: Osamu Sato - 175: James Page - 176: Wilfred Benitez Panel #45 (Nov 1999) - 177: Hiroshi Nakajima - 178: Kozo Ishii - 179: Cesar Soto - 180: Joe Walcott |
Just realized I have some of the missing sheets.
Panel #39 May 1999 is 153 Manabu Fukushima 154 Masaaki Morooka 155 Leo Gamez 156 Pipino Cuevas Panel #31 August 1998 is 121 Kozo Ishii 122 Satoshi Iida 123 Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson 124 Matthew Saad Muhammad Panel #26 March 1998 is 101 Yoshiaki Matsukura 102 Takeo Imaoka 103 Stanley Ketchel 104 Genaro Hernandez Panel #28 May 1998 is 109 Akihiko Nago 110 Momotaro Kitajima 111 Wilfredo Gomez 112 Rosendo Alvarez Ok, that seems to account for all of them now. |
I had a couple Pacquios before they took off. Probably sold them for under $15 bucks each. Such is life. :(
Also sold a bunch of stuff I never thought anybody would ever want, so it all works out in the end. :D |
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None I can identify.
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I'd take Lopez and Galaxy as placeholders.
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I would like to see some images of these Boxing Beat magazine cut out cards.....
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With this thread in mind I went and picked up the Salvador Sanchez Gong card. Seller in Japan mentioned it was issued in May 1982. Not that it matters much, but wonder if this pre-dates the Panini issue of the same year at all. |
I dunno, but given that he was killed in 1982 and the Gong card definitively predates his death, I opted for it instead of the Panini as my example.
Here are some Fight Beat examples: http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...01984%2002.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...%20Camacho.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...20Arguello.jpg ETA: as magazine cut out cards go, they are pretty nice. |
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Can a ticket count as a card, if it is fully intact and has a picture of the boxer?
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No a ticket is a ticket. Nice but not the same.
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Hey Adam, have you catalogued the Seidman program cards? They were a limited edition (Appears to be anywhere from 70+ to 200+ per sheet), that I believe were freebies inserted in programs to fans who purchased ringside tickets to specific fights that Seidman printed the programs for.
Cardstock sheets that appear to be designed for trimming on the front, while the backs usually served as bout cards for the fight night the sheet was issued for. Issued in the early to mid 90's. I had almost all of them at one point, but never thought to digitally archive them properly. I want to say there was somewhere between 15-20 different sheets produced. <img src="http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-13159482790260_2270_99964827"> <img src="http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-13159482790260_2270_100187873"> |
Another I've not seen before. Seidman was associated with Brown's boxing cards; a Seidman Productions Inc. copyright is on the back of some of the 1990s cards.
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Yes, Seidman helped produce some of their larger and more popular sets around the middle of their run. I believe all the series that were like 45 cards and under, Seidman had nothing to do with.
Here's another one of those sheets. <img src="http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-13159482790260_2270_100804801"> |
Damnit, now I have something else to chase...
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Ran across this, going through a stack of these.
Depending on whether you consider these over-sized cards, or premiums (or both), this one pre-dates the other World Boxing Japan card of "Finito" by almost 2 years, by my estimation. |
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Khaosai Galaxy. Still not during his actual fighting career, but it predates the smaller card by about 4 years.
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c. tail end of 1994 or early 1995. Haven't pinned the dates of these down exactly yet.
HOF'er, Humberto "Chiquita" Gonzalez |
Well, I've managed to knock off several from the list:
These from Dave: Khaosai Galaxy Humberto Gonzalez Ismael Laguna Ricardo Lopez Luis Rodriguez |
Wrong thread. My bad.
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