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EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 08-23-2016 09:45 AM

Could sure use some expert opinions on Ott Ball & Mantle.
 
Hey all.

Just wanted a few opinions on 2 items. First is a cool looking Mantle Poster Signed.

Just want to know if it's real and approximate retail value on it.

The second item is what I believe is a 1939 Giants Team ball. Hard to make out some of these names but Notables that I see are Ott and McCarthy.

Just want to know if it's real and approximate retail value on it as well.

I have a chance to pick these up for either trade or sale.

Thanks in advance for your time guys. As always, you rock and so does this forum.



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btcarfagno 08-23-2016 10:04 AM

That's Jack, or Johnny, McCarthy...not Joe.

The Mantle...is it approx 7 inches long and maybe 4 inches high? If so it is part of a set of such "cards" issued by Davco in 1982. I have several of them that are signed, including DiMaggio. The Mantle does look good to me, and I would guess a value of $150 or so...give or take $25.

The 1939 Giants ball is in rough shape obviously. Ott is the only big "star" on the ball...Tony Lazzeri was on that team for a time in 1939 but I do not see him on your ball. There may be a couple early deaths in there, but they likely wouldnt change matters much unless they were super rare. My guess on value, in that condition, would be around $150 as well.

Tom C

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 08-23-2016 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btcarfagno (Post 1575860)
That's Jack, or Johnny, McCarthy...not Joe.

The Mantle...is it approx 7 inches long and maybe 4 inches high? If so it is part of a set of such "cards" issued by Davco in 1982. I have several of them that are signed, including DiMaggio. The Mantle does look good to me, and I would guess a value of $150 or so...give or take $25.

The 1939 Giants ball is in rough shape obviously. Ott is the only big "star" on the ball...Tony Lazzeri was on that team for a time in 1939 but I do not see him on your ball. There may be a couple early deaths in there, but they likely wouldnt change matters much unless they were super rare. My guess on value, in that condition, would be around $150 as well.

Tom C

The mantle is a long poster about 2 feet long. The Ball I am not sure to the year. Was hoping someone could help by some of the signatures. I can Identify a few such as cliff melton Mel Ott Burgess WHitey Whitehead Jack McCarthy who is supposedly an umpire

btcarfagno 08-23-2016 10:22 AM

I didn't notice the hand holding it up there in the corner. If it was 4x7...those would be some seriously small hands!!

Tough to say if it is a period advertising piece or just a blow up of the Davco card itself. As an advertising piece it could be closer to $200. If it's just a poster I would stick to my original figure of around $150.

Tom C

gashouse34 08-23-2016 10:55 AM

Right above the Jack McCarthy is Paul Dean, who was with the Giants in 1940-1941.

frankbmd 08-23-2016 10:58 AM

It might be important to know, if it is a blow up of the Davco card, could it also be a blow up of the Mantle sig as well?

Based on the thumb size, that sig looks quite large.

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 08-23-2016 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by gashouse34 (Post 1575899)
Right above the Jack McCarthy is Paul Dean, who was with the Giants in 1940-1941.



Thanks guys. I appreciate it.

btcarfagno 08-23-2016 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1575900)
It might be important to know, if it is a blow up of the Davco card, could it also be a blow up of the Mantle sig as well?

Based on the thumb size, that sig looks quite large.

There weren't any facsimile signatures on the original Davco cards.

Tom C

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 08-23-2016 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by btcarfagno (Post 1575903)
There weren't any facsimile signatures on the original Davco cards.

Tom C

does the mantle look good?

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 08-23-2016 11:43 AM

also, does the Ott look good? Thanks

btcarfagno 08-23-2016 01:22 PM

To me the Mantle looks good, but there are quite a few others on this board I would listen to about Mantle before me.

I am a big fan of both M's having the little loop at the bottom.

Tom C

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 08-23-2016 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btcarfagno (Post 1575995)
To me the Mantle looks good, but there are quite a few others on this board I would listen to about Mantle before me.

I am a big fan of both M's having the little loop at the bottom.

Tom C

No one else seems to want to chime in lol Are you sure that balls only $200?

earlywynnfan 08-23-2016 01:49 PM

My useless opinion is that Ott looks shaky, I'd suspect clubhouse, but there are many better voices than mine.

btcarfagno 08-23-2016 04:48 PM

Just looked at prior sales of generic Mel Ott team balls from late 30's -early 40's. The sale prices on similar condition balls are in the $250-300 range through auction houses. Minus buyers and sellers premiums and you are looking at $200 or so. You may get a bit more on your own, but I would advise against an eBay Auction. BIN if you must. Not a lot of people looking for a 1940 or 1941 Giants ball. Could go way too low through eBay auction.

Tom C

thetruthisoutthere 08-23-2016 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE (Post 1576015)
No one else seems to want to chime in lol Are you sure that balls only $200?

You're getting FREE opinions here.

Please don't be so impatient.

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 08-23-2016 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere (Post 1576113)
You're getting FREE opinions here.

Please don't be so impatient.



I was not being impatient I was simply joking around with him because he said his opinion wasn't as solid as others on here when it came to the mantles. I just implied no one else is chiming in so he was the best I had all in fun.

vintagesportscollector 08-23-2016 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE (Post 1576015)
No one else seems to want to chime in lol Are you sure that balls only $200?

Have you tried doing any research on your own of sales of Mel Ott team balls?

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 08-24-2016 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by vintagesportscollector (Post 1576170)
Have you tried doing any research on your own of sales of Mel Ott team balls?

Yes I did and I can see where this is going so... I am wrong and thanks for everyone's 2 cents. I post on a lot of sections in this forum, and for some reason a lot of people in this section feel as if you are using them and get upset. I spent over $300 on autograph books and another $300 on Pin Pennant Bobble Head books etc. I am doing my due diligence but unfortunately there is no substitute for time put in.


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