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ksemmel 07-21-2016 05:09 PM

What would you buy with $2500-3500???
 
I asked this in another forum and received some very good answers so I figured I'd ask here:

If you had $2500-3500 to spend on 1-3 cards what would you buy for PC and/or what would you buy as an investment.

So essentially two part question:
$2500-3500 for PC

And

$2500-3500 for investment

And why?

Bestdj777 07-21-2016 05:15 PM

If you'd asked me a year ago, I'd say a 1952 Topps Mantle for investment and PC, but that has probably come and gone. I think we are seeing an uptick in the market right now, so it's hard to see anything as being a good investment right now. If I was buying for my PC, I'd probably pick up a couple of regional or Venezuelan Mantles, given that they are awesome cards and a bit under appreciated in my opinion.

irv 07-21-2016 07:07 PM

Since I strictly collect post war, I'd say you can't go wrong with either Mantle's or Aaron's. Preferably Aaron's RC and what ever money left over to purchase the oldest, highest grade Mick you can find.

Clemente is another option instead of Hank, and actually maybe a better choice, but that is subjective.

Willie Mays also comes to mind as his cards seem to be hot lately as well.

Good luck. :)

egri 07-21-2016 07:53 PM

I think that for the time being, the investment ship has entered pure speculation. As for my personal collection, I'm torn between grabbing a signed 1953 Topps Mickey Mantle before the 53T goes batshit insane like the 52T, or going after some of the tougher signers in the set. Probably the latter.

Touch'EmAll 07-22-2016 09:59 AM

What to buy
 
A centered T206 Mathewson white cap PSA 6 - like the one I was outbid recently.

the 'stache 07-22-2016 10:51 AM

The best '53 Bowman Mickey Mantle I could find.

http://www.vintagecardprices.com/pics/68598.jpg

That is a gorgeous card!

Neal 07-22-2016 11:00 AM

Post War - both personal and investment

One card - the best Topps Aaron I could get
Two cards - the best two Mantles I could get
Three cards - the best three Mantles I could get

Pre War

One card - the best Ruth or Cobb
Two cards - the best Matty and Joe D
Three cards - the best Matty, Johnson, and Foxx

cardcountry 07-22-2016 07:09 PM

A well centered 54 Topps Aaron in the highest grade you can get

ValKehl 07-22-2016 10:07 PM

PC - Briggs Meats panel with Pete Runnels & Bob Porterfield.

Inv. - What "the 'stache" said above.

Johnny630 07-22-2016 10:57 PM

The best centered all black bottom corner 53 SP Topps Willie Mays 👊🏼

vintagebaseballcardguy 07-23-2016 06:44 AM

The best 1954 Wilson's Franks Ted Williams you can get

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1952boyntoncollector 07-23-2016 07:48 AM

Rookie Jackie Robinson

but i like to get a card in a condition better than you dont see on Ebay bin week after week. Like for ty cobbs t206s you see psa 3s..but rarely psa 4s or for rookie aarons' you see psa 6s but rarely 7s for bins....you have to wait around for those higher grades...pwcc a good source when they have their auctions or they do sometimes appear on ebay and of course other auction houses but that tells you what the sought after grade is, the ones that arent easy to find on any given day on ebay

Neal 07-23-2016 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1564755)
Rookie Jackie Robinson

but i like to get a card in a condition better than you dont see on Ebay bin week after week. Like for ty cobbs t206s you see psa 3s..but rarely psa 4s or for rookie aarons' you see psa 6s but rarely 7s for bins....you have to wait around for those higher grades...pwcc a good source when they have their auctions or they do sometimes appear on ebay and of course other auction houses but that tells you what the sought after grade is, the ones that arent easy to find on any given day on ebay

not sure a Topps Aaron RC PSA 6 or 7 will ever be a $2500-3500 card again. That ship has sailed .....

irv 07-23-2016 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal (Post 1564774)
not sure a Topps Aaron RC PSA 6 or 7 will ever be a $2500-3500 card again. That ship has sailed .....

I agree. Just read this article and seen what some top rated cards sold for just 6 yrs ago.

As they say, hindsight is 20/20. :eek:
http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com...ngs-big-bucks/

pokerplyr80 07-23-2016 01:04 PM

I agree with Jeff. A nice centered Aaron, probably a PSA 5 or SGC 6 could be found in your price range and still has upside potential in my opinion. A 51 Mays or 48 Robinson in PSA 4-5 would also be good choices, as would a 56 Mantle PSA 7 or a 52 Bowman Mantle PSA 6.

Harliduck 07-23-2016 02:03 PM

Investment - I would buy any Topps pre 1970 set in high grade for a set break, always a lot of money to be made there off folks willing to sell a set complete.

PC - Same thing because if I bought a complete set I would keep it instead of selling it...:D

1952boyntoncollector 07-23-2016 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal (Post 1564774)
not sure a Topps Aaron RC PSA 6 or 7 will ever be a $2500-3500 card again. That ship has sailed .....

3500 may do it in a direct deal who knows...i know i sold a 1954 Aaron PSA 6 here on bst not that long ago and there were some members criticized how my pricing i know it was way under 3500..

heres a buy it now for 4000...looks like they took less so seller probably netted 3500 for example..this was on july 15 so the ship may still be in port..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1954-topps-A...AAAOSwYSlXht8h

Aquarian Sports Cards 07-23-2016 09:02 PM

Best Nolan Ryan Rookie I could get for the $

irv 07-23-2016 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1564968)
3500 may do it in a direct deal who knows...i know i sold a 1954 Aaron PSA 6 here on bst not that long ago and there were some members criticized how my pricing i know it was way under 3500..

heres a buy it now for 4000...looks like they took less so seller probably netted 3500 for example..this was on july 15 so the ship may still be in port..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1954-topps-A...AAAOSwYSlXht8h

Looks like PWCC has the majority, or the latest listings of current available?
http://www.vintagecardprices.com/car...lue-Prices.htm

Neal 07-23-2016 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1564968)
3500 may do it in a direct deal who knows...i know i sold a 1954 Aaron PSA 6 here on bst not that long ago and there were some members criticized how my pricing i know it was way under 3500..

heres a buy it now for 4000...looks like they took less so seller probably netted 3500 for example..this was on july 15 so the ship may still be in port..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1954-topps-A...AAAOSwYSlXht8h

Looks like there are a few out there at that price level! I would guess that the seller could have put that out for 5K and still have a buyer. A BIN like that one at 4K is most likely due to a seller that is simply not following the market .... PWCC aside, as you really never know what the price is going to be.

Not to get "technical", but the 4K price is over the range stated in the OP. Just sayin ;)

FourStrikes 07-23-2016 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the 'stache (Post 1564449)
The best '53 Bowman Mickey Mantle I could find.

http://www.vintagecardprices.com/pics/68598.jpg

That is a gorgeous card!

that IS a beautiful card, Bill!

1952boyntoncollector 07-24-2016 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal (Post 1564979)
Looks like there are a few out there at that price level! I would guess that the seller could have put that out for 5K and still have a buyer. A BIN like that one at 4K is most likely due to a seller that is simply not following the market .... PWCC aside, as you really never know what the price is going to be.

Not to get "technical", but the 4K price is over the range stated in the OP. Just sayin ;)



'technically' it sold for $3500


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still any card that sells on ebay, you figure you can get direct for around 10% less direct...

gman 07-24-2016 09:02 PM

A 1963 Pepsi Colt 45 Bateman, if one could be found at that price (shoot, if one could even be found).

gomaz 07-25-2016 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardcountry (Post 1564625)
A well centered 54 Topps Aaron in the highest grade you can get

Have to agree, cuz I bought my 6 from you at the National last year. See you again next week!

Johnny630 07-25-2016 11:12 AM

I wonder if people are going to be dropping tons of cash on cards next week. Blue collar collector guys like myself are priced out of the market for nicley centered graded 6+ HOF rookie cards. For a 3,500 card I'd be putting money down to pay it off over prob 8-12 months. I'd still go with the best 53 Topps Mays I could find for the 3,5000. IMO this is strictly a investors/short term flip market, holding for less then a year, then selling. I was wondering if any of you guys are nervous about paying up for a card during this time? I know I'm very skeptical about it. Any thoughts ?

Neal 07-25-2016 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny630 (Post 1565354)
I wonder if people are going to be dropping tons of cash on cards next week. Blue collar collector guys like myself are priced out of the market for nicley centered graded 6+ HOF rookie cards. For a 3,500 card I'd be putting money down to pay it off over prob 8-12 months. I'd still go with the best 53 Topps Mays I could find for the 3,5000. IMO this is strictly a investors/short term flip market, holding for less then a year, then selling. I was wondering if any of you guys are nervous about paying up for a card during this time? I know I'm very skeptical about it. Any thoughts ?

I would guess that many of us who spend $3500 on one card (most I have spent is 2500 btw) are always a little wary .... but not necessarily skeptical. Certain cards seem to be, at the very least, cards that you can at least resell for what you have into it. Some of these cards may increase over time as well, and can turn a nice profit.

I do not buy as an investor and I limit myself to cards that I can afford without using a CC. Every now and then I will, only to ensure safety during delivery, and only if I can sell certain cards to recoup my cost quickly. I think "co-mingling" subjectively big card purchases with family $$ is generally not a good idea.

And the 53T Mays is a solid choice!

Johnny630 07-25-2016 01:26 PM

I totally agree with you. Many cards I believe are pretty safe and can be sold for what you have into them or more. When I mentioned paying off a card over a 8-12 month period I was meaning paying off to a personal seller/dealer. I'm with you, no way I'd put that on a credit card. I'd feel to bad lol .

Thanks I feel the 53 Mays is undervalued and very difficult to find centered in ex+condition.

1952boyntoncollector 07-25-2016 01:37 PM

Always felt that 10% minus what you paid is the rule on good cards. Cant assume you will get back your money when you were willing to pay more than anyone else at an auction in which the auction got part of the money too.

Never assume you will get what you paid for a card, but losing more than 10% sucks..


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