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Shoeless Moe 04-09-2016 08:33 AM

1918 Joe Jackson item - neat find!
 
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...so stumbled upon this item which at 1st glance wouldn't do much for you, but once opened there is an almost 3 foot panoramic pullout attached of the Shipyard team Shoeless Joe Jackson played for in 1918 the season that was interupted by WW1.

It also mentions Ruth playing but this panoramic is Jackson's Team and I know this is always fun, "is it or isn't it Joe Jackson", I have to say it looks like him dead center. I don't think the Babe played in this game.

This item from Goodwin however did have both : )

http://www.goodwinandco.com/1918_bet...-lot14000.aspx

Shoeless Moe 04-09-2016 08:37 AM

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measures 31" x 7"

Shoeless Moe 04-09-2016 08:46 AM

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...The Babe and Shoeless Joe?

Stonepony 04-09-2016 09:29 AM

Really cool!! What made you open that brochure in the first place?!?!

vintagesportscollector 04-09-2016 09:40 AM

Paul, Babe Ruth was in the game. There was a reason it was a record size crowd. Check out this article from the Sept 30 Reading Times, the day following. This item is really tremendous!

https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/45567225/

vintagesportscollector 04-09-2016 09:43 AM

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Ruth and Jackson were both in the game. Jackson hit a HR.

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Shoeless Moe 04-09-2016 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Stonepony (Post 1525305)
Really cool!! What made you open that brochure in the first place?!?!

Dave, it was up on Ebay with a bad title, no mention of Ruth or Jackson, and the main pix was just of the booklet, but I remembered SJJ played for a Steel Company / Shipyard so once in the listing there was the pix of the contents.

Glad no one else saw it : )

Shoeless Moe 04-09-2016 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by vintagesportscollector (Post 1525308)
Paul, Babe Ruth was in the game. There was a reason it was a record size crowd. Check out this article from the Sept 30 Reading Times, the day following. This item is really tremendous!

https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/45567225/

Joe, thanks for digging that up, very good info., I'm going to read more now on that link.

Yah it looks much clearer in person, but still a lil' tough to make out the players. And just speculating, but Jackson was much more popular then Ruth in 1918, Ruth while a tremendous pitcher was just starting to get in the limelight, Jackson was the headliner as they lead off with him in the article too.

So my guess is Jackson was the centerpiece of the photo and those baggie pants look like him, but who knows. My eyes suck too so that doesn't help.

EDITED TO SAY: looks like I was wrong, great stuff Joe, reading the old newspaper articles headline says "All eyes on Ruth". So looks like they shared the stage and Ruth played !B and Pitched, and Rogers Hornsby on the other team....WOW pretty cool! (Fellow Black Sox-er Lefty Williams pitched as well.)

vintagesportscollector 04-09-2016 11:19 AM

I was thinking that too, that in 1918 Jackson would be the bigger draw, but article reads "All Eyes on Ruth".... "Babe was the magnet that drew people to the grounds..." Very interesting. Great pick up.

Shoeless Moe 04-09-2016 11:22 AM

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...not a bad pickup for 10 bucks, thanks again Joe for finding this article.

sporteq 04-10-2016 12:19 PM

super cooL pickup!

TUM301 01-13-2017 05:03 PM

Joe Jackson WWI
 
Thought board members might like to check out this enclosed link with telegram referencing Jackson as well as other major leaguers during the war. The pictured telegram talks about the team and mentions Mr Wagner and I think Lefty Williams. Also very interesting is that Joe and most likely his wife cut out and placed the newspaper cartoon about owner Comisky`s attitude towards players in the "industrial leagues". Very interesting times back then. (Click the linked picture to super size it)

http://www.blackbetsy.com/imagefarm/...es_105-106.jpg

YankeeFan 01-13-2017 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TUM301 (Post 1620266)
Thought board members might like to check out this enclosed link with telegram referencing Jackson as well as other major leaguers during the war. The pictured telegram talks about the team and mentions Mr Wagner and I think Lefty Williams. Also very interesting is that Joe and most likely his wife cut out and placed the newspaper cartoon about owner Comisky`s attitude towards players in the "industrial leagues". Very interesting times back then. (Click the linked picture to super size it)

http://www.blackbetsy.com/imagefarm/...es_105-106.jpg

Nice!
Ironic headline on that article: "Comiskey Taking 4 to 1 Bet Joe Jackson's Bat Will Put White Sox in World's Series"

TUM301 01-14-2017 02:30 AM

You`re right Jack, it seems this single page almost gives a foreshadowing of the organization`s next 2/3 seasons.


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