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glchen 04-04-2016 01:31 PM

2016 REA Catalog is here!
 
I received my catalog today in California. Curious to see if anyone else received theirs already.

pro9 04-04-2016 01:33 PM

Got mine in Canada. Other than REA the catalogue usually comes after the auction is over.

Peter_Spaeth 04-04-2016 01:43 PM

I didn't get mine today but I did get a catalog from The Company Store as well as one from Pottery Barn.

jcmtiger 04-04-2016 01:49 PM

Wow, that was quick, did not receive mine yet.

Joe

gnaz01 04-04-2016 01:53 PM

So when does it go live online??

The Nasty Nati 04-04-2016 02:14 PM

...So this is why the t206 Pelty always carried a premium. Quite the Pelty hoarder :eek:

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...e?itemid=39414

GregMitch34 04-04-2016 02:34 PM

So does the value of Peltys now go way down with this many added to the market?

Pilot172000 04-04-2016 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregMitch34 (Post 1523235)
So does the value of Peltys now go way down with this many added to the market?

I think it goes down a little now that folks know that they are there. By the same token, unless the purchaser of this lot decides to break up the lot, the scarcity will still be higher than other cards. I find it pretty impressive that someone could accumulate that many of one card without being suspicious.

CMIZ5290 04-04-2016 04:00 PM

How in the world did that Ginger Beaumont T206 get a grade of 9? And Lena Blackburn EPDG get an 8? Unbelievable.....

iowadoc77 04-04-2016 04:02 PM

Don"t have mine yet!!!!!
 
The suspense is killing me. Need to rush home and see if its there yet

ullmandds 04-04-2016 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1523268)
How in the world did that Ginger Beaumont T206 get a grade of 9? And Lena Blackburn EPDG get an 8? Unbelievable.....

but Kevin...I thought PSA was the best and the most strict grading service under the sun?

CMIZ5290 04-04-2016 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1523274)
but Kevin...I thought PSA was the best and the most strict grading service under the sun?

They are, hands down. These two look funny though.

ashes13 04-04-2016 06:21 PM

I agree, that EPDG Blackburne looks worse than many 6s. No way if you or I crack that out of that holder and send it to PSA, it comes back an 8 again.

Also

how is this a PSA 7? isnt that staining and a wrinkle at the top

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...e?itemid=39478

and this a PSA 6?

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...e?itemid=39476

nice cards, but grading of t206s does not seem very consistent by PSA. The Walter Johnson PSA 7 is a great card, but seems more like a 6.

CMIZ5290 04-04-2016 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashes13 (Post 1523335)
I agree, that EPDG Blackburne looks worse than many 6s. No way if you or I crack that out of that holder and send it to PSA, it comes back an 8 again.

Also

how is this a PSA 7? isnt that staining and a wrinkle at the top

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...e?itemid=39478

and this a PSA 6?

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...e?itemid=39476

nice cards, but grading of t206s does not seem very consistent by PSA. The Walter Johnson PSA 7 is a great card, but seems more like a 6.

You are absolutely right. The Rucker PSA 7 Pied 42 has a very noticable crease or wrinkle at the top of the card. I'm just wondering if all these cards belong to the same owner??? Just saying, these cards are way off....

CMIZ5290 04-04-2016 06:24 PM

delete...
Also

how is this a PSA 7? isnt that staining and a wrinkle at the top

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...e?itemid=39478

and this a PSA 6?

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...e?itemid=39476

4815162342 04-04-2016 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Nasty Nati (Post 1523221)
...So this is why the t206 Pelty always carried a premium. Quite the Pelty hoarder :eek:



http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...e?itemid=39414


No one has said it yet, so I guess that I have to: REA has been peltyd/pelted with Peltys.

brianp-beme 04-04-2016 11:17 PM

The wild frontier
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 4815162342 (Post 1523345)
No one has said it yet, so I guess that I have to: REA has been peltyd/pelted with Peltys.

I know if I win this lot I will skin all the cards and sell the end product as Pelts.

Brian

ullmandds 04-05-2016 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1523340)
delete...
Also

how is this a PSA 7? isnt that staining and a wrinkle at the top

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...e?itemid=39478

and this a PSA 6?

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...e?itemid=39476

breathe kevin...BREATHE! It will be ok...just keep saying PSA is great...PSA is great...PSA is great.

Yoda 04-05-2016 12:29 PM

Well, now I have now spent the last 3 hours perusing the REA catalogue, and now am feeling a bit faint and think I need to lie down. If this is Rob's final REA auction before he rides off into the sunset towards whatever, then I think
it will be a blockbuster. Wow! John

pokerplyr80 04-05-2016 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1523340)
delete...
Also

how is this a PSA 7? isnt that staining and a wrinkle at the top

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...e?itemid=39478

and this a PSA 6?

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...e?itemid=39476

I have never heard of a 7 with a wrinkle before. Does any one know if it is possible for a wrinkle to re-appear after its been removed? Perhaps that is what happened in this case.

ullmandds 04-05-2016 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1523678)
I have never heard of a 7 with a wrinkle before. Does any one know if it is possible for a wrinkle to re-appear after its been removed? Perhaps that is what happened in this case.

yup...it is possible...a good indication said card may have been tampered with at some point.

pokerplyr80 04-05-2016 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1523679)
yup...it is possible...a good indication said card may have been tampered with at some point.

A scary thought for those with high grade big money cards if true. I know there are those who think a lot of the vintage 8s 9s and 10s had a little help along the way. I would hate to spend 5 or 6 figures on a great looking card only to find a wrinkle or stain suddenly appear down the road. I wonder if the psa or sgc guarantee would apply in such a case.

ullmandds 04-05-2016 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1523702)
A scary thought for those with high grade big money cards if true. I know there are those who think a lot of the vintage 8s 9s and 10s had a little help along the way. I would hate to spend 5 or 6 figures on a great looking card only to find a wrinkle or stain suddenly appear down the road. I wonder if the psa or sgc guarantee would apply in such a case.

add it to the list of scary thoughts!

another reason i dont buy/collect high grade cards!

CMIZ5290 04-05-2016 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1523471)
breathe kevin...BREATHE! It will be ok...just keep saying PSA is great...PSA is great...PSA is great.

Pete- you never cease to amaze me. Even with all of the past sales results, you want to go on and on about SGC, and rag PSA...Why? Even PSA can make grading mistakes, but the one good thing, they are at least in PSA holders. Nothing like selling PSA 7 T206 commons for $700-750, and settling for selling SGC 84 T206 commons for $400-450. What exactly is it? Did Joe O. beat you up at school??

Peter_Spaeth 04-05-2016 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1523679)
yup...it is possible...a good indication said card may have been tampered with at some point.

I've seen 8s with noticeable wrinkles. I doubt they were missed, more likely they reappeared.

ullmandds 04-05-2016 04:17 PM

Kevin...go suck an egg!

Why don't I like PSA?

Because historically they overgrade cards.

Why else?

Because they've been implicated with fraud and sketchy behavior in the hobby.

Why else? Because they started their venture knowingly overgrading an altered card that is the emblem of the hobby.

I don't give a f$ck about resale...I am a collector first and foremost.

CMIZ5290 04-05-2016 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1523798)
Kevin...go suck an egg!

Why don't I like PSA?

Because historically they overgrade cards.

Why else?

Because they've been implicated with fraud and sketchy behavior in the hobby.

Why else? Because they started their venture knowingly overgrading an altered card that is the emblem of the hobby.

I don't give a f$ck about resale...I am a collector first and foremost.

Over grade cards? Are you actually saying that with a straight face? Have you seen the recent SGC graded T206s that have been flooding the market in the last several months?

ullmandds 04-05-2016 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1523801)
Over grade cards? Are you actually saying that with a straight face? Have you seen the recent SGC graded T206s that have been flooding the market in the last several months?

do you know what historically means?

CMIZ5290 04-05-2016 04:31 PM

Pete- 90% or better of my SGC graded T206s were from many years ago, and for the most part, they are solid cards for the grade given. There was a time when they were close with PSA, both in grade evaluations and prices realized. All I'm saying is that ship has long since sailed. Hell, I remember when GAI came out, and some of their prices were exceeding PSA, look at them now...

the 'stache 04-07-2016 12:16 AM

Got mine today in Flower Mound (Dallas), TX, and just opened it. Seeing and smelling this beauty is the official start to spring for me.

khkco4bls 04-07-2016 07:09 AM

Boy i'm glad i don't collect cards..

T206Collector 04-07-2016 10:39 AM

I hate PSA's inconsistency as much as anybody, but that Rucker with the crease isn't a crease it all -- it's a scratch in the plastic that carries into the frame above the card.

bn2cardz 04-07-2016 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T206Collector (Post 1524548)
I hate PSA's inconsistency as much as anybody, but that Rucker with the crease isn't a crease it all -- it's a scratch in the plastic that carries into the frame above the card.

From the description:
Quote:

Originally Posted by http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/bids/bidplace?itemid=39478
Extremely close inspection by REA reveals a crease in the upper right corner, more easily visible from the reverse, which would cause us to grade this card at a lower level than PSA, but whatever its grade, it is undeniably a beautiful and extremely crisp card.


ullmandds 04-07-2016 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bn2cardz (Post 1524571)
From the description:

looks like a crease it is!!!!

T206Collector 04-07-2016 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1524575)
looks like a crease it is!!!!

The perils of buying the grade without reading the description. Yeesh.

In this respect, I have seen way more PSA 5+ cards with wrinkles and creases than SGC 60+. The criticism of SGC from the PSA crowd tends to be around centering and corner wear. But, I have never seen an SGC 60+ with a wrinkle or a crease. And that is why I feel more comfortable buying high grade T206 cards online in SGC holders. In a way, SGC assumes you can see the cornerwear and centering yourself. They are much better at telling you about the hidden flaws.

4815162342 04-07-2016 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1524575)
looks like a crease it is!!!!


At least it wasn't put on the BST accepting offers. Then there'd be trouble.

ullmandds 04-07-2016 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4815162342 (Post 1524577)
At least it wasn't put on the BST accepting offers. Then there'd be trouble.

daryl...don't you have anything of any value to contribute to this?????:p

ajjohnsonsoxfan 04-07-2016 11:54 AM

I love the catalog cover. Stunning photo!

ullmandds 04-07-2016 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T206Collector (Post 1524576)
The perils of buying the grade without reading the description. Yeesh.

In this respect, I have seen way more PSA 5+ cards with wrinkles and creases than SGC 60+. The criticism of SGC from the PSA crowd tends to be around centering and corner wear. But, I have never seen an SGC 60+ with a wrinkle or a crease. And that is why I feel more comfortable buying high grade T206 cards online in SGC holders. In a way, SGC assumes you can see the cornerwear and centering yourself. They are much better at telling you about the hidden flaws.

absolutely correct...but to the registry folk the cards really dont matter!

its so ridiculous!

4815162342 04-07-2016 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1524579)
daryl...don't you have anything of any value to contribute to this?????:p


Just had to throw that in there. :D

kailes2872 04-07-2016 12:57 PM

For some reason, I didn't receive a catalog this year. I went through the lots online. I keep going back to the Lionel Carter 33 Delong set. The idea of having the first set that he collected all together in his holders is pretty awesome and I am thinking of taking a run at it. Did the catalog have any price estimates?

BengoughingForAwhile 04-07-2016 02:14 PM

Mailman just rang the doorbell and handed me my annual April Christmas present.... Love the magnet!!! :D

iowadoc77 04-07-2016 07:58 PM

Today
 
Finally got my catalog. The suspense was killing me. So much great stuff in there. Ridiculous.

sycks22 04-07-2016 10:41 PM

Got mine in MN, looks great.

bn2cardz 04-08-2016 06:27 AM

Got mine last night. While still in a plastic wrapping the back cover had a corner torn off and missing. I am glad that catalog came to me and not someone that collects catalogs. Most of my catalogs get well worn since my 4 toddlers/young children love looking through these catalogs.

Huck 04-08-2016 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kailes2872 (Post 1524606)
For some reason, I didn't receive a catalog this year. I went through the lots online. I keep going back to the Lionel Carter 33 Delong set. The idea of having the first set that he collected all together in his holders is pretty awesome and I am thinking of taking a run at it. Did the catalog have any price estimates?

Estimate is $4,000 (currently $3,750).

Stonepony 04-08-2016 10:48 AM

No catalog for me in STL , hope it's coming

bn2cardz 04-08-2016 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stonepony (Post 1524937)
No catalog for me in STL , hope it's coming

As posted already, I received mine and I am in O'Fallon, MO.

kailes2872 04-08-2016 12:43 PM

It came today!
 
I feel like I am part of the club. What an awesome array of material

Cozumeleno 04-08-2016 01:55 PM

I think they are still being delivered. Mine just came today.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stonepony (Post 1524937)
No catalog for me in STL , hope it's coming



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