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rebelsart 04-03-2016 06:58 PM

T206 Honus Wagner lot #1 in REA auction
 
Just reading about lot #1 in next weeks REA auction - T206 Honus Wagner, SGC10.
Here is a link to the Sports Collectors Daily article:

http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com...r-t206-wagner/

1952boyntoncollector 04-03-2016 07:01 PM

man you just 'outed' an auction...!

thats a major violation...

vintagetoppsguy 04-03-2016 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1522877)
man you just 'outed' an auction...!

thats a major violation...

Seriously? :rolleyes:

1952boyntoncollector 04-03-2016 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 1522888)
Seriously? :rolleyes:


Man i hope you arent serious saying that either...

pherbener 04-03-2016 07:19 PM

Wasn't that the Wags that "Mr. Mint" had at Willow Grove back in the 80"s?

Pilot172000 04-03-2016 07:37 PM

I'm confused. What did he do wrong? Was the in on a website and therefore public knowledge??? I'm unfamiliar with the unsaid rules of Internet Auctions.

pherbener 04-03-2016 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilot172000 (Post 1522907)
I'm confused. What did he do wrong? Was the in on a website and therefore public knowledge??? I'm unfamiliar with the unsaid rules of Internet Auctions.

I'm sure he was joking!

vintagetoppsguy 04-03-2016 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilot172000 (Post 1522907)
I'm confused. What did he do wrong?

No, you are not confused. It is Jake that is confused. There are no rules about outing an auction. Leon has said that dozens of times.

Bpm0014 04-03-2016 07:40 PM

He was joking. It's fine to out a public auction. Not cool to out an eBay or similar auction.

pokerplyr80 04-03-2016 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilot172000 (Post 1522907)
I'm confused. What did he do wrong? Was the in on a website and therefore public knowledge??? I'm unfamiliar with the unsaid rules of Internet Auctions.

It's generally considered bad form, but not against the rules to out an auction in case a member is bidding and doesn't want extra attention. In this case he was obviously joking.

Sean 04-03-2016 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1522914)
It's generally considered bad form, but not against the rules to out an auction in case a member is bidding and doesn't want extra attention. In this case he was obviously joking.

+1

Pilot172000 04-03-2016 07:53 PM

What do you mean by outing? Does this mean if you see a card on EBay, it's best not to mention that listing until it has ended or risk drawing unwanted attention to a listing that someone on here is trying to get? I also figured that it was good business to bring up these larger auctions like REA or Heritage so folks maybe could find what they have been looking for. I will respect any unwritten rules on this forum or any other. Just wanting to know what they are helps. I wouldn't want to step on toes.

egbeachley 04-03-2016 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilot172000 (Post 1522922)
What do you mean by outing? Does this mean if you see a card on EBay, it's best not to mention that listing until it has ended or risk drawing unwanted attention to a listing that someone on here is trying to get? I also figured that it was good business to bring up these larger auctions like REA or Heritage so folks maybe could find what they have been looking for. I will respect any unwritten rules on this forum or any other. Just wanting to know what they are helps. I wouldn't want to step on toes.

Yes. Imagine you spent 100's of hours searching for your personal Holy Grail. You finally see it listed in an unusual spot and are preparing to win it. Then it gets "announced" on the Board to everyone and another collector goes and makes an offer and gets it before the auction ends. D'oh!

Joshwesley 04-03-2016 08:24 PM

This happened here a few weeks ago on a satchel Paige 48 leaf....is it illegal/bad form?

Pilot172000 04-03-2016 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by egbeachley (Post 1522941)
Yes. Imagine you spent 100's of hours searching for your personal Holy Grail. You finally see it listed in an unusual spot and are preparing to win it. Then it gets "announced" on the Board to everyone and another collector goes and makes an offer and gets it before the auction ends. D'oh!

Oh, I get it. I have a few holy grail cards myself. But by the same token I would hope to find a lead on one of these cards through a site like this. There are folks on here that had cards posted and I didn't know it until it's too late. I do get it though. I guess that's what makes the PM function so essential.

pokerplyr80 04-03-2016 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshwesley (Post 1522946)
This happened here a few weeks ago on a satchel Paige 48 leaf....is it illegal/bad form?

It's never illegal or against the rules but is considered bad form in some cases. A 48 Paige on ebay would be seen by just about any one who is looking for one. T206 Wagners, 52 Mantles, and other high profile cards are, or should be exempt from this unwritten "rule." In my opinion at least, for what it's worth.

Pilot172000 04-03-2016 09:01 PM

I agree. When any of the Big Six T206 cards come up, I want to know because it's exciting! I may never get any of them but the folklore surrounding this hobby has a lot to do with those cards. I am totally understanding about not wanting to screw up somebodies deal on a card, but these cards aren't really secrets of you are in the market for one anyway.

1952boyntoncollector 04-03-2016 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilot172000 (Post 1522975)
I agree. When any of the Big Six T206 cards come up, I want to know because it's exciting! I may never get any of them but the folklore surrounding this hobby has a lot to do with those cards. I am totally understanding about not wanting to screw up somebodies deal on a card, but these cards aren't really secrets of you are in the market for one anyway.

Right that was the point of my joke...its a T206 Wagner...its going to get attention.....making fun of the people that complain about outing auctions as well......not against the rules at all as stated....

1952boyntoncollector 04-03-2016 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 1522910)
No, you are not confused. It is Jake that is confused. There are no rules about outing an auction. Leon has said that dozens of times.

Eh , i think you are the one that is confused, its like you are the only one that thought i was serious......

ullmandds 04-03-2016 09:29 PM

what the hell is going on here? i don't think discussing the #1 lot in one of the most anticipated auctions of each and every year...that just happens to be a t206 wagner is breaking any "outing" rules.

pokerplyr80 04-03-2016 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1522989)
what the hell is going on here? i don't think discussing the #1 lot in one of the most anticipated auctions of each and every year...that just happens to be a t206 wagner is breaking any "outing" rules.

Do you and David not get that Jake was being sarcastic?

vintagetoppsguy 04-03-2016 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1522998)
Do you and David not get that Jake was being sarcastic?

No, Jesse, I don't. Do you not read the many ridiculously stupid posts Jake makes? I thought that was just another one of them.

1952boyntoncollector 04-03-2016 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 1523001)
No, Jesse, I don't. Do you not read the many ridiculously stupid posts Jake makes?


Jesse can you believe this guy.....well vintagetopps guys posts here attacking me (because apparently i was serious about saying that the original poster was breaking rules on a #1 auction item) are pretty stupid and ridiculous ....i know jesse had to read those posts....guess he will have to compare your ridiculous posts with some other posts i made on other threads to see which is more ridiculous.....but you have a head start...maybe i can catch up.....but as far as attacking someone with no basis you already won that reward..

pokerplyr80 04-03-2016 09:56 PM

Jake, you have to admit some of your responses are out there. And I do think you should stop the comments on BST listings. I will admit I have been guilty of that before too but have stopped.

David I get what you're saying, kind of, but I took this one as just a joke. I say we move on.

It is pretty cool that a t206 Wagner is up for auction. I always find them fun to watch, and like to dream of owning one some day.

1952boyntoncollector 04-03-2016 10:02 PM

[QUOTE=pokerplyr80;1523009]Jake, you have to admit some of your responses are out there. And I do think you should stop the comments on BST listings. I will admit I have been guilty of that before too but have stopped.


Yeah, i sure hope others follow that when i post b/s/t items so i assume your comment is made for those people too...

you can talk about 'other threads' all you want but its obvious on this thread about who is being ridiculous, you obviously knew i was joking......heck there were threads already about talking about outing a 1952 Mantle...since the other poster seems to like to comment about other threads, i wonder why he didnt read that one which i already expressed clear views about how you can't out a huge card....i guess that thread was ridiculous as well...

By the way there are many threads where people have said i was very helpful to them and also comments saying i made very useful posts....you cant simply just argue on a thread and say 'he says ridiculous things'

pokerplyr80 04-03-2016 10:09 PM

It does appear that your sarcasm was lost on a couple of people this time but I got it. That's the problem with online posts I guess. Sarcasm and tone can be hard to detect, even though it seemed obvious in this case.

I mention the b/s/t comments because they bother some people and I think as a board we all should keep them to a minimum. Although some people invite them by refusing to post prices. That is another practice that I wish we could all agree to ban. No listing a card for sale without a price.

1952boyntoncollector 04-03-2016 10:13 PM

agreed as to comments on b/s/t .here is vintagetopps guy first post to my b/s/t saying i am insulting people..i dont think that was appropriate for b/s/t...first comment after my listing saying i am insulting people.......i think that was a ridiculous post.....and yes i then defend my post.but look at that behavior on b/s/t...if he just is proper he doesnt make any commments like that.....so theres a history there with this guy.....he wasnt going to give me the benefit of the doubt here......just giving full disclosure

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...hlight=basgall


by the way i dont think $1700 was that bad a price....its for sale this month in the Heritage Auction.....if card goes for more than $1700 which it is very likely .. i being attacked for offering a good deal on b/s/t

pokerplyr80 04-03-2016 10:30 PM

In that case the comment shouldn't have been made, but it was also bad form to add the part about being above people's budget. You and I collect the same stuff and buy and sell here. And other members list pictures of single cards worth more than our entire collection. People will respond if the can afford it and are interested and will ignore it if they can't.

That's what I like about net54. You can have members posting Cobb collections worth a few hundred grand, and others selling 1990 upper deck Ben McDonalds. Something for everyone.

1952boyntoncollector 04-03-2016 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1523022)
In that case the comment shouldn't have been made, but it was also bad form to add the part about being above people's budget. You and I collect the same stuff and buy and sell here. And other members list pictures of single cards worth more than our entire collection. People will respond if the can afford it and are interested and will ignore it if they can't.

That's what I like about net54. You can have members posting Cobb collections worth a few hundred grand, and others selling 1990 upper deck Ben McDonalds. Something for everyone.

Again its b/s/t, if you can point to something in the ad and start commenting that opens the door for me to then comment on peoples b/s/t posts if i disagree in how its posted? of course not......either we can comment or we cant on b/s/t and..bottom line, his comments on b/s/t shouldnt have been made..and you can see from the other posts in the thread that he isnt exactly unbiased in his comments about being 'confused'..

plus the basgall card should end up being a very good deal..thats the funny part..it may sell for well over $2000 (i rarely see great deals on cards with no price listed)

chaddurbin 04-03-2016 11:28 PM

It's a lose/lose proposition defending either party in this argument...so I'm just gonna say hi art you're probably glad you started this thread.

Stampsfan 04-04-2016 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by chaddurbin (Post 1523033)
It's a lose/lose proposition defending either party in this argument...so I'm just gonna say hi art you're probably glad you started this thread.

+1

And how 'bout that Honus card?

Frank A 04-04-2016 05:16 AM

Now, back to the Wagner. That is one ugly card!

Joshchisox08 04-04-2016 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1522891)
Man i hope you arent serious saying that either...

He used the eye roll smiley ......... :rolleyes: :D

bnorth 04-04-2016 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1523022)
In that case the comment shouldn't have been made, but it was also bad form to add the part about being above people's budget. You and I collect the same stuff and buy and sell here. And other members list pictures of single cards worth more than our entire collection. People will respond if the can afford it and are interested and will ignore it if they can't.

That's what I like about net54. You can have members posting Cobb collections worth a few hundred grand, and others selling 1990 upper deck Ben McDonalds. Something for everyone.

We do have an "ignore" option on this site. It makes it so you see that Jake posted but only see the post if someone "quotes" it.;):D


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