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tedzan 02-26-2016 08:10 PM

Where have all the red HINDU cards been hiding for 70 years? Show us your red HINDU's
 
In the first issue (1962) of "The Sport Hobbyist", Frank Nagy lists the entire T206 set and its various backs. But, there is NO mention of the red HINDU back.

The 1st major book on T206's by Bill Heitman, "The Monster", briefly refers to a recent find (at its time of printing, 1980) of only 6 known red HINDU cards.

So....where have all the red HINDU cards been hiding for 70 years ?

This has mystified me since I first read Bill Heitman's The Monster back in 1981. Can anyone on this forum explain the absence of the red HINDU's for such
a long period....or at least offer a theory regarding this mystery ? ?



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...RTHOBBYIST.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...onsterBook.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ISTpage8FN.jpg



Hey guys
So far, there are 43 known red HINDU T206's. So show us your cards here, and let's see how close we can come to displaying most of them.

I will start this "parade" with red HINDU cards of my favorite two guys in the T206 set......


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx50.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dHINDUx50b.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx50.jpg



TED Z
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rats60 02-26-2016 08:37 PM

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...mage%20499.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...mage%20500.jpg

edjs 02-26-2016 08:53 PM

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A little beat, but...

MVSNYC 02-26-2016 09:41 PM

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Red Wheat

kdixon 02-26-2016 10:22 PM

Nice Wheat... Would go good in my collection when you get tired of it..

tinkertoeverstochance 02-27-2016 03:30 AM

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My Tannehill, SGC 20.

Sean 02-27-2016 03:35 AM

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Harry Davis:


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tedzan 02-27-2016 07:16 AM

Where have all the red HINDU cards been hiding for 70 year ? Show us your red HINDU's
 
One more from the Exclusive 12 group in the 460-only series............


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...llHINDUx50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...lHINDUx50b.jpg



TED Z
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tedzan 02-27-2016 05:07 PM

Where have all red HINDU cards been hiding for approx. 70 years ? Show us your's
 
Another Exclusive 12 dude from the 460-only series............


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...INDUxSGC30.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...NDUxSGC30b.jpg



Hey guys,

Gee, only 9 red HINDU's on display so far, that leaves 34 more to go. If you have them, then why not show them ?


Thanks,

TED Z
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tedzan 02-28-2016 09:01 AM

Where have all red HINDU cards been hiding for approx. 70 years ? Show us your's
 
Hey guys......Thanks for posting your cards.


Continuing the "parade" of these rare HINDU's with Russ Ford.

Ford's first full season (1910) with the NY Highlanders, he won 26 games, while losing only 6.....and, an ERA = 1.65


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...2FordRHx50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...FordRHx50b.jpg



TED Z
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Sean 02-28-2016 12:39 PM

Hey Ted, thinking back, I had a similar reaction the first time that I read the Heitmann book. It was 2002, when I first began collecting T206.

From the description, I thought that the Red Hindus were more rare than Uzit or Drum cards. I was surprised how easy it was to find a couple on ebay once I began collecting backs.

White Borders 02-28-2016 01:01 PM

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Hey Ted, here's a second Devore and a third Tannehill for this thread. I only have as many Red Hindus in my collection as I do BL460s and Black Lennox, which gives an idea of how rare they are. No guys, I am not interested in parting with them, unless it's a trade for a Wagner, Plank, or Doyle :)

tedzan 02-28-2016 01:30 PM

Where have all the red HINDU cards been hiding for 70 years? Show us your red HINDU's
 
Sean and Craig

Any given day on ebay there will be 3, 4, or 5 red HINDU's listed.

Invariably, these cards will be subjects from the group of T206 cards I have designated as the "Exclusive 12" (460-only series). These 12 red
HINDU T206's are more available than the 31 subjects from the 350/460 series. The 350/460 guys are seldom seen on ebay with red HINDU
backs.

For example(s), the 12 red HINDU cards posted (so far) in this thread include an assortment of 9 guys from the Exclusive 12 group. And only
3 guys from the 350/460 series (2 of which are in the initial post here).

So, are red HINDU cards as rare as BROAD LEAF 460, LENOX, or UZIT ?

This depends on which T206 series cards that you are referring to......350/460 (perhaps)......460-only (no).


TED Z
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tedzan 02-28-2016 03:19 PM

I'm reprising this information for those on this forum who are new to the T206 game.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ckardRHx50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...kardRHx50b.jpg



To date, 31 subjects have been confirmed with the red HINDU back in the 350/460 series.

Baker
Bender (no trees)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Chance (portrait-yellow)
Chase (blue)
Chase (dark cap)
Cobb (red portrait)
Davis (A's)
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Larry Doyle (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Evers (Chicago-yellow sky)
Griffith (bat)
Johnson (pitching)
Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (Boston)
Konetchy (glove low)

Magee (bat)
Murphy (batting)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove)
Street (fielding)
Sweeney (fielding)
Willis (throwing)
CYoung (glove)

NOTE
The BROAD LEAF 460 and the red HINDU cards evidently were printed simultaneously (circa..Fall/Winter 1910),
since their fronts coincide (this rule applies only to the subjects in the 350/460 series).



460-only series.....Exclusive 12

These 12 confirmed subjects are the only red HINDU cards in the 460-only series. Furthermore, these 12 appear
to be more available with the red HINDU back than the above listed subjects in the 350/460 series.

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...460x42x25x.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...460x42x25x.jpg

Crandall (cap)
Devore
Duffy
Ford
Gandil
Geyer
Hummel
McGraw (glove at hip)
Pfeffer
Sheckard (glove)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Wheat



The following 4 subjects have yet to be confirmed with the red HINDU back. All four are possible with this back.

Ames (hands above head)
Mathewson (dark cap)
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago))
Reulbach (no glove)


TED Z
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rman444 02-28-2016 05:48 PM

My only red hindu example

<a href="http://s69.photobucket.com/user/rman444/media/for%20sale/baseball%201900-1919/hindu%20young%20front_zps6b4n41ge.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i52/rman444/for%20sale/baseball%201900-1919/hindu%20young%20front_zps6b4n41ge.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo hindu young front_zps6b4n41ge.jpg"/></a>
<a href="http://s69.photobucket.com/user/rman444/media/for%20sale/baseball%201900-1919/hindu%20young%20back_zpsgm0qxgqq.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i52/rman444/for%20sale/baseball%201900-1919/hindu%20young%20back_zpsgm0qxgqq.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo hindu young back_zpsgm0qxgqq.jpg"/></a>

tedzan 02-28-2016 06:44 PM

Richard

Your CYoung card is fantastic....and, it's a 350/460 series guy.

Thanks for posting it here.


TED Z
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Sean 02-28-2016 07:20 PM

Wow, too bad it only graded an A, because that back is really clean. :)

tedzan 02-28-2016 07:57 PM

Where have all the red HINDU cards been hiding for 70 years? Show us your red HINDU's
 
Sean

Many moons ago, I acquired this red HINDU Tannehill. I think it's a sharp-looking card.

The TPG's say that a "sharp-edged" device trimmed it......who am I to argue with them :)


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx50.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dHINDUx50b.jpg



TED Z
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tedzan 02-29-2016 08:01 AM

Where have all the red HINDU cards been hiding for 70 years? Show us your red HINDU's
 
Another member of the Exclusive 12 club......


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...andilRHx50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ndilRHx50b.jpg



TED Z
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atx840 02-29-2016 08:32 AM

Congrats Ted, you've been Chase-ing that one for a while ;)

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mart8081 02-29-2016 09:17 AM

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Ted, you have an incredible collection of Red Hindu backs.

They are my favourite back in the set - one day I hope to add more.

For now I have one:

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Eggoman 02-29-2016 01:58 PM

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It may be BEAT and ONLY one, but I DO have one!

tedzan 02-29-2016 07:23 PM

And, another member of the Exclusive 12 club......



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...duHummel50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...uHummel50b.jpg



TED Z
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tedzan 03-01-2016 01:21 PM

Where have all the red HINDU cards been hiding for 70 years? Show us your red HINDU's
 
Continuing this red HINDU parade is another member of the Exclusive 12 club......



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx50.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dHINDUx50b.jpg



TED Z
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Bpm0014 03-01-2016 01:30 PM

43 TOTAL red hindu's?? or 43 subjects with a red hindu?

scooter729 03-01-2016 01:56 PM

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Wheat already has been shown, but here's mine...

tedzan 03-01-2016 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bpm0014 (Post 1510352)
43 TOTAL red hindu's?? or 43 subjects with a red hindu?

Brendan

Here's my confirmed red HINDU listing......43 subjects with red HINDU backs


Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1509558)
I'm reprising this information for those on this forum who are new to the T206 game.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx50.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dHINDUx50b.jpg




To date, 31 subjects have been confirmed with the red HINDU back in the 350/460 series.

Baker
Bender (no trees)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Chance (portrait-yellow)
Chase (blue)
Chase (dark cap)
Cobb (red portrait)
Davis (A's)
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Larry Doyle (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Evers (Chicago-yellow sky)
Griffith (bat)
Johnson (pitching)
Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (Boston)
Konetchy (glove low)

Magee (bat)
Murphy (batting)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove)
Street (fielding)
Sweeney (fielding)
Willis (throwing)
CYoung (glove)

NOTE
The BROAD LEAF 460 and the red HINDU cards evidently were printed simultaneously (circa..Fall/Winter 1910),
since their fronts coincide (this rule applies only to the subjects in the 350/460 series).



460-only series.....Exclusive 12

These 12 subjects are the only red HINDU cards in the 460-only series. Furthermore, these 12 appear
to be more available with the red HINDU back than the above listed subjects in the 350/460 series.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...460x42x25x.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...460x42x25x.jpg

Crandall (cap)
Devore
Duffy
Ford
Gandil
Geyer
Hummel
McGraw (glove at hip)
Pfeffer
Sheckard (glove)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Wheat



The following 4 subjects have yet to be confirmed with the red HINDU back. All four are possible with this back.

Ames (hands above head)
Mathewson (dark cap)
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago))
Reulbach (no glove)


TED Z
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TED Z
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Bpm0014 03-01-2016 02:56 PM

Great, thanks for the info Ted!

tedzan 03-01-2016 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scooter729 (Post 1510366)
Wheat already has been shown, but here's mine...


scooter

There is no limit here as to how many cards of the same subject are displayed.

Your Wheat is awesome....thanks for sharing it with us.


TED Z
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tedzan 03-02-2016 08:11 AM

Where have all the red HINDU cards been hiding for 70 years? Show us your red HINDU's
 
OK guys

So far we have a total of 24 red HINDU cards on display here.

It breaks down to 8 from the 350/460 series; and, an assortment of 16 from the 460-only series (the Exclusive 12 group).


Thanks for posting your cards....and, let's continue this parade of red HINDU cards.



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...efferRHx50.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...fferRHx50b.jpg



TED Z
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tedzan 03-02-2016 07:09 PM

Some one beat up on this McGraw :)



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...cGrawRHx50.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...GrawRHx50b.jpg




TED Z
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tedzan 03-03-2016 07:03 PM

Where have all the red HINDU cards been hiding for 70 years? Show us your red HINDU's
 
It's hard to believe we've run out of red HINDU cards to post here. OK guys, let's see some more of them.

Whatever, here is another one of my Exclusive 12 guys......


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx50.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dHINDUx50b.jpg



TED Z
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tedzan 03-05-2016 07:01 AM

Here's one of my favorites from the Exclusive 12 group. Now, how about showing us some more of your red HINDU cards.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...DuffyRHx50.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...uffyRHx50b.jpg



TED Z
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tedzan 03-06-2016 04:12 PM

Where have all the red HINDU cards been hiding for 70 years? Show us your red HINDU's
 
The 28th red HINDU joins this parade.

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dHINDUx50B.jpg


TED Z
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brass_rat 03-06-2016 07:07 PM

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Walter would like to play along in this game.

Thanks for starting this thread, Ted.

Cheers,
Steve

tedzan 03-07-2016 05:55 AM

Where have all the red HINDU cards been hiding for 70 years? Show us your red HINDU's
 
Hi Steve

Thanks for posting your Walter Johnson....it's a real beauty.


Best regards,

TED Z
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atx840 03-07-2016 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brass_rat (Post 1512428)
Walter would like to play along in this game.



Thanks for starting this thread, Ted.



Cheers,

Steve


Wow, great card Steve.

Jobu 03-07-2016 08:49 PM

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:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by brass_rat (Post 1512428)
Walter would like to play along in this game.

Thanks for starting this thread, Ted.

Cheers,
Steve


brass_rat 03-07-2016 09:16 PM

Thanks, guys. ...and nice one, Bryan. :)


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