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w7imel 02-17-2016 04:40 PM

Ruth ball price(am I missing something)
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BABE-RUTH-OA...8AAOSwqYBWotbM


The price of this ball has steadily climbed for the last 2 days to almost 10K with 4 days left. Am I the only one who thinks there are better Ruth autograph options out there that aren't "smudged"? I guess as a collector if I am going to spend this kind of money I feel there are way better Ruth signed items that aren't smudged than this especially for the price. Is having a SS Ruth ball that hard to come by? Anyone else have any thoughts on this item?

joed25 02-17-2016 04:51 PM

The seller is most likely shilling it

Bpm0014 02-18-2016 08:24 AM

Nice bold autograph. Would it be frowned upon to professionally clean up the smudge a bit?

Kco 02-18-2016 08:42 AM

It's a very nice auto, and it's actually genuine which is also nice, unlike many "museum quality" autos that magically look like they were signed last week

w7imel 02-18-2016 03:25 PM

I wasnt questioning authenticity at all. I just wandered if anyone else thought the price seemed a little high for a smudged autograph. Not sure I would spend that kind of money but if money no object who am I to question it ....I guess......

Kco 02-18-2016 04:09 PM

I personally don't think I'd spend 10k on any autograph regardless of how nice it was. A Ruth ball would be phenomenal but for that same amount I could check a dozen hard to find autos of HOFers off my list, but that's where I sit on that or really any auto at that level personally.

w7imel 02-18-2016 06:36 PM

I bought a Ruth check a few years ago that I was comfortable with. I was not comfortable authenticating a Ruth cut on my own.. I was once duped by a "big name" autograph and memorablillia seller. I bought A Ruth so called autograph only to find out it was ghost signed. I guess ever since I have been very sensitive to any autograph that doesnt have a "stone cold proof of authenticity". Since then the only item I feel the absolute need to put a priemiums are checks and first party authenticated signatures...JMO Mind you I was duped on the Ruth long before the internet became a common place to research exampliers....Im just saying I have been very cautious ever since.

gnaz01 02-18-2016 09:43 PM

At $25,000 now.....

RichardSimon 02-19-2016 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnaz01 (Post 1505845)
At $25,000 now.....

Greg,
Something fishy here perhaps?
:eek::eek::confused::confused::confused:

gnaz01 02-19-2016 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardSimon (Post 1505920)
Greg,
Something fishy here perhaps?
:eek::eek::confused::confused::confused:

Oh ABSOLUTELY, Rich :D

Runscott 02-21-2016 08:35 AM

Look at the highest prices paid for 'single signed' 'dual signed' and 'team signed' baseballs: http://www.psacard.com/Resources/Guides/RecordBreakers

(I didn't post the link to argue legitimacy of these items, only to show prices)

Leon 02-21-2016 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joed25 (Post 1505238)
The seller is most likely shilling it

Bid history certainly could be a concern.

Runscott 02-21-2016 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1506677)
Bid history certainly could be a concern.

Agreed. Ebay Ruth balls just never get that kind of money.

Also, there is something funny about it, even though I know others here say it's good. Compare the ink and flow to David A's Ruth ball. It just doesn't look like a steel tip pen signature to me, and Ruth had few other choices. Maybe it's a charcoal pencil signature?

w7imel 02-21-2016 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 1506697)
Agreed. Ebay Ruth balls just never get that kind of money.

Also, there is something funny about it, even though I know others here say it's good. Compare the ink and flow to David A's Ruth ball. It just doesn't look like a steel tip pen signature to me, and Ruth had few other choices. Maybe it's a charcoal pencil signature?

Scott I am glad you mentioned it....Like I have always said I am far from an expert and most of you have much more experience in this field than myself....Thant being said I thought the ink looked unlike any ink from that period should look compared to what I have seen from past exampliers...JMO

Runscott 02-21-2016 05:52 PM

If my gut tells me something smells funny, I stay away. Generally when I'm ready to buy an autograph, I'm pretty much positive about the piece in question.

On the flip side, it's always interesting when someone else doesn't feel right about something, and I'm positive it is good - it's also hard to explain away someone else's gut feeling, even if you know it's just some slightly expired milk.

Shoeless Moe 03-01-2016 06:44 PM

When the shill wins.......

relist

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BABE-RUTH-OA...8AAOSwqYBWotbM

w7imel 03-01-2016 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w7imel (Post 1505228)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BABE-RUTH-OA...8AAOSwqYBWotbM


The price of this ball has steadily climbed for the last 2 days to almost 10K with 4 days left. Am I the only one who thinks there are better Ruth autograph options out there that aren't "smudged"? I guess as a collector if I am going to spend this kind of money I feel there are way better Ruth signed items that aren't smudged than this especially for the price. Is having a SS Ruth ball that hard to come by? Anyone else have any thoughts on this item?


Ok this is what I missed someone thinking they would flip the ball for 2x what they paid for it...This is whats wrong with the hobby is guys like this who are only in it for the money...not the love of the hobby...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BABE-RUTH-OA...8AAOSwqYBWotbM

Leon 03-02-2016 07:14 AM

This should be a warning example for everyone in our hobby.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 1510472)



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