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Topps206 12-04-2015 01:43 PM

What is your analysis? Real or fake?
 
So I want to pick this up. I was zooming on my computer and cell phone to see if it was real. I have no conclusion either way. I want to believe this real, but I don't have the evidence that checks out.

Thank You. Here's the link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1910-T206-Sw...YAAOSwp5JWXPe2

bbcard1 12-04-2015 01:48 PM

I'd vote real. Just no reason for it not to be. A deserved 10, but nice eye appeal.

Topps206 12-04-2015 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bbcard1 (Post 1478617)
I'd vote real. Just no reason for it not to be. A deserved 10, but nice eye appeal.

They say it's real if you can spot the dots. I see slightly cheaper of the same cards with dots. Those aren't graded and ideally I'd like to buy graded.

vintagetoppsguy 12-04-2015 01:51 PM

Real. There would be no monetary gain in faking something like that.

Topps206 12-04-2015 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 1478622)
Real. There would be no monetary gain in faking something like that.

I want to think it's real, but fakes can be slabbed, too. If it's fake, it hasn't been discussed as a reprint.

mechanicalman 12-04-2015 02:05 PM

I can't decide if the idea of counterfeiting poor SGC commons is either the worst (low ROI) or best (little scrutiny) possible business model when it comes to hobby-related criminal enterprises.

Either way, seems like a low risk buy.

Topps206 12-04-2015 02:09 PM

I think I'll make my move. Thank You.

autograf 12-04-2015 02:12 PM

case looks intact. 100% real.

Topps206 12-04-2015 02:16 PM

I appreciate it. So in a few hours I'll be making my move.

bbcard1 12-04-2015 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Topps206 (Post 1478632)
I think I'll make my move. Thank You.

You should. I thought about the BIN…the eye appeal is nice.

iwantitiwinit 12-04-2015 04:13 PM

100% real but not worth the ask in my opinion. Back is too damaged. Bet you can find another SGC10 in better shape for less.

bobbyw8469 12-04-2015 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bbcard1 (Post 1478660)
You should. I thought about the BIN…the eye appeal is nice.

Eye appeal, schmy appeal. The price is high for a '1'. I sold some 2.5's for around that price range, some even less. If you buy it, you aren't going to recoup your money when it comes time to sell.

Topps206 12-04-2015 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1478678)
Eye appeal, schmy appeal. The price is high for a '1'. I sold some 2.5's for around that price range, some even less. If you buy it, you aren't going to recoup your money when it comes time to sell.

Maybe I just want it because I want it and I like the cards.

bnorth 12-04-2015 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Topps206 (Post 1478695)
Maybe I just want it because I want it and I like the cards.

IMO the best reason to buy a card.

bobbyw8469 12-04-2015 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 1478699)
IMO the best reason to buy a card.

That's fine. Still a true statement it is priced high. But there are gobs and gobs of threads about overpriced BIN's. Welcome to Ebay.

mechanicalman 12-04-2015 07:05 PM

It's $24.95. It probably costs $15 fully loaded just to get it graded. How is that too high of an ask for a 100 year old card? Just pull the trigger.

bobbyw8469 12-04-2015 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mechanicalman (Post 1478716)
It's $24.95. It probably costs $15 fully loaded just to get it graded. How is that too high of an ask for a 100 year old card? Just pull the trigger.

It is actually $5-$6 to grade a card. If you think that is not priced high, then you need to look at completed listings. But it's just a card. Get back on topic. Buy it and be happy. Adios.

mechanicalman 12-04-2015 07:14 PM

It's more than that. Got to add shipping both ways and TPG mandated insurance.

If a card makes you happy and it's under $25, why even spend the time researching past sales? Come to think of it, I've spent way too much time in this thread.

Bpm0014 12-04-2015 07:39 PM

100% real

Fred 12-04-2015 09:07 PM

Ask yourself the following:

Would it be worth taking a reprint Cravath and beating it down to a point where it would only grade a "1" and then send it in to be graded so that you can sell it as a "1"? :confused:

Sure, the TPGs miss a few fakes but how often have we seen SGC slab a fake T206? Can anybody post scans of fake T206 cards in SGC slabs?

Oh, to answer the post, I think the card is real.

bbcard1 12-05-2015 03:48 PM

Higher demand player though. It may be a couple bucks overpriced but a 10 is not just a 10 imo. Just because you can get another with the same numerical grade is meaningless.

T206Collector 12-05-2015 03:54 PM

How is this a real thread? I vote real card, fake thread.

mooch 12-05-2015 08:23 PM

the card is still there on ebay.
 
seems like a odd thread

Topps206 12-05-2015 08:32 PM

All I'm saying was I couldn't see close enough to tell if it was real.

bnorth 12-05-2015 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Topps206 (Post 1479013)
All I'm saying was I couldn't see close enough to tell if it was real.

Thought you wanted to buy it or do you or a friend own it and you are just trying to bring attention to it?

bobbyw8469 12-05-2015 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 1479015)
thought you wanted to buy it or do you or a friend own it and you are just trying to bring attention to it?

ding ding ding!!! Lol!

Topps206 12-05-2015 09:05 PM

I was ready to buy it tonight but changed my mind because I'll just put the money in my account instead.

Bpm0014 12-05-2015 09:06 PM

Agreed. How is this even a real thread? Hahaha.

pokerplyr80 12-05-2015 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bpm0014 (Post 1479022)
Agreed. How is this even a real thread? Hahaha.

I'm confused by this one as well. Why would you think a common t206 in an sgc holder is fake?

Topps206 12-05-2015 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1479027)
I'm confused by this one as well. Why would you think a common t206 in an sgc holder is fake?

As I have said time and time again, I couldn't see the dots on the face. That's why. I just wanted some help.

Joshchisox08 12-05-2015 09:43 PM

I'd say real. Don't worry if anyone is giving you a hard time. Legit question here.

RCMcKenzie 12-06-2015 12:43 AM

T206 Cravath
 
Cravath is priced as a common, but he had some pretty good home run stats in his day. I would look for one with less back damage and honest wear. You almost always get a better deal if you wait for an auction as opposed to a BIN...Here's another BIN...FWIW...
www.ebay.com/itm/141828528334

iwantitiwinit 12-06-2015 04:43 AM

Did you make your move?

4815162342 12-06-2015 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Topps206 (Post 1479021)
I was ready to buy it tonight but changed my mind because I'll just put the money in my account instead.


You're going to save all $24.95? Just make sure you diversify.

Leon 12-06-2015 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 4815162342 (Post 1479078)
You're going to save all $24.95? Just make sure you diversify.

My sentiments exactly. Less risk is good....

iwantitiwinit 12-06-2015 08:09 AM

Leon I think I'd reallocate a bit if I were you. Reduce hedge fund assets to 15%, eliminate all fixed income positions, increase real estate allocation to approx 15% of portfolio thru alternative rental assets, shift at least half of international equity allocation to U.S. equities and anything remaining in international equities should contain a hedged dollar component.

Leon 12-06-2015 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit (Post 1479102)
Leon I think I'd reallocate a bit if I were you. Reduce hedge fund assets to 15%, eliminate all fixed income positions, increase real estate allocation to approx 15% of portfolio thru alternative rental assets, shift at least half of international equity allocation to U.S. equities and anything remaining in international equities should contain a hedged dollar component.

My personal asset allocation is actually about 50/50 in two of the largest index funds with the least costs. I leave them alone.
My pie chart was concerning how to allocate the $24.95

Topps206 12-06-2015 09:15 AM

The thing that drew me to this was that I'd prefer to buy graded.

CW 12-06-2015 09:58 AM

Nothing wrong with being too careful, Topps206. I'd also vote real. Don't mind the minor criticism or take it personally, either. We get sellers on here from time to time trying to draw attention to their auctions, so don't be surprised if a few folks on here are cynical or skeptical.

The nice thing about buying on eBay with your credit card is you can always receive the card and then look at it closely once it's in hand. Then, if you determine it's a fake, you can always return it as "item not as described". Good luck with your collection!


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