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brooklynbaseball 10-20-2015 08:58 AM

Babe Ruth assist please
 
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Always nervous about purchases this size and would appreciate the help of the board. Thank you

HOF Auto Rookies 10-20-2015 08:59 AM

I don't know as to authenticity, but why would you purchase it and then ask for opinions?


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daves_resale_shop 10-20-2015 09:01 AM

Ruth
 
Is that on a Hof plaque?

If so, I don't think I've ever seen one...

brooklynbaseball 10-20-2015 09:04 AM

Haven't purchased it, considering jumping in. I have another Ruth signature that received the okay but it's hard to compare a signature on a baseball to a flat imo.

brooklynbaseball 10-20-2015 09:04 AM

It is a plaque

HOF Auto Rookies 10-20-2015 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by brooklynbaseball (Post 1463409)
Haven't purchased it, considering jumping in. I have another Ruth signature that received the okay but it's hard to compare a signature on a baseball to a flat imo.


Gotcha, thanks for the clarification.


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jad22 10-20-2015 11:30 AM

Very few of those signed plaques are out there. I would compare them carefully with the ones that have been "deemed" real.

jad22 10-20-2015 12:00 PM

http://www.icollector.com/Babe-Ruth-...A-LOA_i8487150

This is an Albertype example rather than the Sepia one.

Bpm0014 10-20-2015 01:07 PM

I have zero expertise in autographs and have trouble with many myself. However, I think I have a gift/knack for Ruth (and Ruth only). It's no good. It's not a horrible forgery, but no good nonetheless.

w7imel 10-20-2015 02:02 PM

Is this the one that just popped up on EBAY? Has a full James Spence LOA. What it comes down to is how combfortable you are with JSA. This Was certified in 1999 and sold at a Mastro auction. Both reputable but just like everything else it all comes down to how confident in the TPA expertise you are. Unless its a personal check or it was signed in front of you thats what it really comes down to. How much do you trust some TPA telling you its "real".

brooklynbaseball 10-20-2015 02:40 PM

That's why I am here:D

w7imel 10-20-2015 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by brooklynbaseball (Post 1463518)
That's why I am here:D

True that!!! I would wait until David Atkaz, or Scott Forrest, Shelly or Richard chime in before upping a bid on a piece that could go into the 10's of thousands dollar range. JMO They helped me with my first Ruth purchase.

brooklynbaseball 10-20-2015 03:11 PM

Yes, I am hopeful that all, or some portion of that group will venture onto the thread. I am DONE with the tpa's and had considered selling my entire collection because of some recent bad experiences, but I can't seem to do it. I've been collecting for over 20 years now and am still holding out hope to be able to pass down my collection to my boys.

w7imel 10-20-2015 03:16 PM

No expert at all but looks good to me. I would also like to see what experts say. I love these high dollar pieces. Cant afford them but love seeing them.

jad22 10-20-2015 03:45 PM

If this is the EBAY item there are no returns. Others sales indicate this would be a 30 thousand dollar item. Its a 1999 LOA, which is before JSA (just Spence). One would think this item would have had the additional PSA certification and a current JSA certificate in order to maximize the sellers profit. Did you try the PSA Quick Opinion to see if it came back good?

w7imel 10-20-2015 05:59 PM

Very good point. If I were looking to maximize my profits I would have JSA, PSA, GAI and any other TPA sign on to it. That is a very good point you make.

brooklynbaseball 10-20-2015 06:43 PM

Again, no "quick opinion" by a tpa would be worth the opening bid to me. The seller is not being very forthcoming with information, being very cryptic in fact. It's looking like something is not right, so i'm bowing out. Still would be interested in the opinions regarding the authenticity though.

jad22 10-20-2015 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by w7imel (Post 1463569)
Very good point. If I were looking to maximize my profits I would have JSA, PSA, GAI and any other TPA sign on to it. That is a very good point you make.

I was under the impression that the Ruth Albertype that sold at the Weiss auction and maybe one or two more, were the only authentic examples. Others that have been sold recently have been questioned after the fact. It would seem odd that another would be peddled on Ebay for a quarter of the price with dubious paperwork which could be updated for slightly less or maybe just as questionable paperwork.

Duluth Eskimo 10-20-2015 08:01 PM

I would not buy it. It does not appear to flow well to me and with the high profit potential to forge it just seems too good to be true. I may be wrong, but I have to convince myself before I would listen to what others opinions are and I don't believe it is good

David Atkatz 10-21-2015 01:33 AM

I agree with Jason. I don't like it.

jbhofmann 10-21-2015 04:20 PM

"R" seems slow and drawn.

w7imel 10-21-2015 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by David Atkatz (Post 1463656)
I agree with Jason. I don't like it.

Your right David, if there is one thing I have learned from you and others here, is if it looks too good to be true it is because it is too good to be true. If this were authentic at a 30,000 dollar value I think the seller would have had more TPA letters than a 16 year old Spence letter to back it up.


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