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whiteymet 08-11-2015 06:51 PM

New Different Exhibit Card back Mantle. Mays etc.
 
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Hi Guys:

Just picked up a group of Exhibits with a new/different back. At least for me it was new. Anyone else have any from this set?

These are from the Fun Fair Olde - Tyme Penny Arcade in Miami Florida. See below.

Just ANOTHER card to add to your Mantle, Mays, Musial, Dodgers, HOF, etc. wantlists!

I have 45 different and this set seems to follow the 1955 Exhibit set which also is the set the PC backs were from.

Here is a list of the cards I picked up: Adcock, Ashburn, Atwell, Baker, Batts, Baumholtz, Bilko, Carrasquel, Dark, Doby, Dropo, Ennis, Goodman, Greengrass, Gromek, Groth, Hegan, Hermanski, Hodges, Kelner, Lockman, Maglie, Mantle, Mathews, Mays, Mele, Minoso, Mitchell, Musial, Pafko, Porterfield, Reese, Roberts, Schoendinst, Schmitz, Seminick, Spahn, Stephens, Torgeson, Trucks, Vernon, Waitkus, Wertz, Woodling, Zernial.

Bestdj777 08-11-2015 07:35 PM

Great pickup! I'm assuming the Mantle is for sale for a very reasonable price? :).

Rickyy 08-12-2015 12:50 AM

Wow Fred that's really cool.

Ricky Y

Exhibitman 08-12-2015 11:19 AM

I wouldn't really classify that as a variation if it is a post-production stamp placed by the arcade owner. Interesting but not OEM, so to speak. I have a number of different exhibits with after market stamping on them, even one used to advertise a card collecting magazine [I forget which].

Bestdj777 08-12-2015 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1441161)
I wouldn't really classify that as a variation if it is a post-production stamp placed by the arcade owner. Interesting but not OEM, so to speak. I have a number of different exhibits with after market stamping on them, even one used to advertise a card collecting magazine [I forget which].

I am curious as to your take on the Dad's Cookies Exhibits if you don't mind sharing? I view them in a somewhat similar light. I've given up on back variations for Exhibits given the costs associated with them but am always curious about other's opinions.

Exhibitman 08-12-2015 02:47 PM

I don't think the Dad's were hand stamped. They look like they were printed on the sheets before cutting.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2679/...33d0ec7c5e.jpg

Same with the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette backs.

http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...1&d=1324400205

They're interesting adaptations of a card issue to an advertising purpose, I suspect with the cooperation of ESCO in the printing and cutting process. Or like these Nu-Card variations on the common western stars cards:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...IL%20Backs.jpg

The arcade back shown above is more like the Page's Pittsburgh Milk back stamp on the Homogenized Bond Bread cards, strictly an after-market affair. Nice and interesting and collectible, but with a difference.

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...0cards%204.jpg

Bestdj777 08-12-2015 07:52 PM

Thanks! I've never had one of the Dad's Cookies Exhibits in hand so I always just assumed they were stamped by the Cookie company after the fact.

Rickyy 08-13-2015 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1441161)
I wouldn't really classify that as a variation if it is a post-production stamp placed by the arcade owner. Interesting but not OEM, so to speak. I have a number of different exhibits with after market stamping on them, even one used to advertise a card collecting magazine [I forget which].

I take it the Exhibit company really didn't care if arcade owners did that on their own as opposed to getting some sort of a licensing agreement to print ads on the back?

Ricky Y

David W 08-15-2015 08:12 AM

The only problem I have with hand stamped backs like this are that you have no idea when the stamp was put on.

I've got a dozen blank backed MSA discs of Lou Brock and I could turn them all into rare backs with a $10 stamp from Staples.

Not saying this one isn't vintage, but how do you tell?

whiteymet 08-15-2015 02:39 PM

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Hi Gents:

Been away for a few days. Since I started this thread I should log back into the conversation.

Starting at the top:

Sorry Chris, Mantle is not available as I am sure you knew. Mantle was probably the one in the worst shape of the group as someone put tape on all four corners!

I did get a few dupes which I would consider trading but the Mick was not one of them. I also have a few Dad's Cookies for trade.

Thanks Ricky! I know you enjoy your Exhibits as I do!

Hey Adam: I did not classify these as a variation, I said they were a new/different back. Agreed it and others with stamps are not OEM. Please post other baseball/football Exhibits with aftermarket stamping you mention.

I will post some of mine below. In order (I hope)

Set of Dad's Cookies, 2 Different Fonts/Wording on the Holloway Black Cow Sucker backs, Dad's close up, Bomba Chicklets from Puerto Rico, Triple Nickel Books, 2 Different 1955 PC backs one with plain line one with the words A MUTOSCOPE CARD in the line, A Plain PC back, Fun Fair back again, Pittsburgh Post Gazette, and close up of Triple Nickel Books.

Anyone else have any different backs on their Post 1939 Exhibits? If so please post them here!

One interesting point that may or may not be pertinent, as mentioned, I got 45 different in this group. One of the other backs shown below, the Bomba Chicklets from Puerto Rico, also has 45 different cards in the group that was found. I wonder if the Exhibit company limited other company's who wanted to print or stamp on the back to just do so on 45 cards so as not to "infringe" on the normal Exhibit set of 64 cards. This may hold true for all but the Dad's Cookies set which was issued in a 64 card set.

More research will need to be done and more cards for most of the sets would need to be found to answer that question.

Fred

ls7plus 08-22-2015 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1441161)
I wouldn't really classify that as a variation if it is a post-production stamp placed by the arcade owner. Interesting but not OEM, so to speak. I have a number of different exhibits with after market stamping on them, even one used to advertise a card collecting magazine [I forget which].

Absolutely +1.

Larry


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