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calvindog 07-23-2015 09:28 AM

John Rogers: Jailed
 
Another hobby leader takes a fall:

http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/arti...ogers-arrested

wonkaticket 07-23-2015 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1434220)

What? I'm blown away! Not long ago I was blasted by Mr. Nash about calling this innocent pillar of society out for being not so above board to say the least. This can't be the same guy are you sure Jeff? I'm just crushed all of my hero's are just dropping like flies:D

Peter I know you read this so I'm not one to say told ya so I will take the high road here, oh who am I kidding told you so...nana nana boo boo. :)

Econteachert205 07-23-2015 10:00 AM

Love the booking photo

Brian Van Horn 07-23-2015 10:06 AM

Gee, how do you know the National is coming up? Somebody's going to jail.

How many years now has this been the pattern?

Peter_Spaeth 07-23-2015 10:17 AM

His criminal defense attorney Blake Hendrix and his civil attorney Brett Myers of Dallas filed a motion July 2 to dismiss the June 8 order.

Myers appears to be a labor and employment attorney. :confused:

CurtisFlood 07-23-2015 11:00 AM

A lot of bad stuff has been coming out of Arkansas for a long time. I won't touch the stuff.

Jay Wolt 07-23-2015 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1434231)
His criminal defense attorney Blake Hendrix and his civil attorney Brett Myers of Dallas filed a motion July 2 to dismiss the June 8 order.

Myers appears to be a labor and employment attorney. :confused:

Peter, why don't you represent him, he can pay you off in photos :)

Peter_Spaeth 07-23-2015 11:21 AM

Jay, I prefer altered cards.:eek:

gabrinus 07-23-2015 06:30 PM

bad stuff
 
Bad stuff?? Like Dorial Green-Beckham???

sago 07-23-2015 06:37 PM

I think that the "snapshot" of his legal problems covers 7 pages on the internet says it all.

vthobby 07-23-2015 06:37 PM

Scum!
 
I am almost positive that this is the guy that I shipped a signed Yankee Team baseball with Gehrig to in the late 1980s for him to consign in an auction. Well......we all know how that turned out! Being a starving College kid, I did not have the wherewithal or the resources to chase him as he constantly had excuses as to when my money was coming etc.... He finally just broke contact and I had not even thought about it until I saw this post. Absolute scumbag. Deserves everything they can throw at him.

Mike

slidekellyslide 07-23-2015 08:58 PM

I wonder when Peter Nash will write about this fraudster? I mean he must be really double and triple checking his facts and sources before he breaks it out on Hauls of Shame.

slidekellyslide 07-23-2015 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1434225)
What? I'm blown away! Not long ago I was blasted by Mr. Nash about calling this innocent pillar of society out for being not so above board to say the least. This can't be the same guy are you sure Jeff? I'm just crushed all of my hero's are just dropping like flies:D

Peter I know you read this so I'm not one to say told ya so I will take the high road here, oh who am I kidding told you so...nana nana boo boo. :)

Quoted from Hauls Of Shame:

"Net54 moderator Dan Bretta then chimed in and added, "There's only one reason someone consigns something to CC...they know it's a fake" and also stated, "(I) really had no idea that John Rogers was mixed up with CC (Coaches Corner)."
...
But McDaniel, Bretta, Warshaw and others failed to reveal the shortcomings of the SCD article and the veracity of the accusations they leveled in the public forum.
...
Like McDaniel, Robert W. Fraser is another close Lifson confidant who has also used Lifson's lawyer's services at his behest while Dan Bretta is a Net54 moderator who is aware of several cease and desist letters sent by Lifson's attorney, Barry Kozyra, threatening legal action if members make negative comments about his client who is also well-known in the hobby as an admitted thief of rare baseball artifacts.
...
The false accusations made by McDaniel and Bretta opened the door for Fraser, a convicted felon from Westwood, New Jersey, to post additional statements to slander Rogers.
...
Sources indicate that McDaniel, Bretta, Fraser and others knew full well that the Rogers LOA's were forgeries, yet chose to post the accusations anyway."


_________________________________________


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!1

calvindog 07-23-2015 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide (Post 1434516)
I wonder when Peter Nash will write about this fraudster? I mean he must be really double and triple checking his facts and sources before he breaks it out on Hauls of Shame.

I don't know for certain what the relationship is between Rogers and Nash but it wouldn't surprise me if Nash chose not to write about Rogers if indeed the two are friends or if Nash is involved in some of Rogers' business dealings. After all, he can put whatever he wants on HOS as it's his site and he contributes all the content to it. It's not like he runs an open forum with contributions from the hobby public.

slidekellyslide 07-23-2015 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1434527)
I don't know for certain what the relationship is between Rogers and Nash but it wouldn't surprise me if Nash chose not to write about Rogers if indeed the two are friends or if Nash is involved in some of Rogers' business dealings. After all, he can put whatever he wants on HOS as it's his site and he contributes all the content to it. It's not like he runs an open forum with contributions from the hobby public.

Actually that's not true at all...his blog posts can be responded to by anyone, he has a lot of regular commenters including Dorothy Seymour Mills.

And the relationship between Nash and Rogers is business...Rogers loaned Nash money. Why? I have no idea, but I have suspicions.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/ite...ntry-1.1632058

calvindog 07-23-2015 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide (Post 1434530)
Actually that's not true at all...his blog posts can be responded to by anyone, he has a lot of regular commenters including Dorothy Seymour Mills.

And the relationship between Nash and Rogers is business...Rogers loaned Nash money. Why? I have no idea, but I have suspicions.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/ite...ntry-1.1632058

A comments section is different than a board made up of equal contributors is what I meant.

And who believes anything Mike O'Keeffe writes? That guy? I wouldn't trust him at all. He's no good.

CurtisFlood 07-23-2015 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabrinus (Post 1434417)
Bad stuff?? Like Dorial Green-Beckham???

No, like bad Mantle bats and baseballs, 8x10s of Mantle, Williams, DiMaggio. This is not an Arkansas/Missouri thing. There is back and forth and passing the stuff along by people in both states.

slidekellyslide 07-23-2015 10:31 PM

I'm just glad the stuff I bought from Rogers nobody except me would ever buy. Well, I'm glad until I decide to sell it to no one.

wonkaticket 07-23-2015 10:36 PM

Rogers fraud is off the charts....is there a sliding scale for gift baskets for these guys? Sort of like the standard wedding anniversary gifts. You know like 1mm in fraud is paper, 2mm in fraud is silver and so on.....

BTW, if there was ever a photo worthy of an entire thread of PhotoShop fun it's this one. I mean was this guy busted for sports memorabilia fraud or for hanging out near a Chuck E Cheese?

http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn...ed/image_3.jpg

gabrinus 07-24-2015 04:19 AM

Dgb
 
Just kidding on the DGB comment.....trying to get ready for football season.....Jerry

bnorth 07-24-2015 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1434527)
I don't know for certain what the relationship is between Rogers and Nash but it wouldn't surprise me if Nash chose not to write about Rogers if indeed the two are friends or if Nash is involved in some of Rogers' business dealings. After all, he can put whatever he wants on HOS as it's his site and he contributes all the content to it. It's not like he runs an open forum with contributions from the hobby public.

Open forums really mean nothing because as soon as the subject matter gets sticky for whoever runs the forum the threads get locked or deleted. They are only open IF people don't bash the owner/owners business. This is a constant problem over on the CU board and many others.

Peter_Spaeth 07-24-2015 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide (Post 1434530)
Actually that's not true at all...his blog posts can be responded to by anyone, he has a lot of regular commenters including Dorothy Seymour Mills.

And the relationship between Nash and Rogers is business...Rogers loaned Nash money. Why? I have no idea, but I have suspicions.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/ite...ntry-1.1632058

On his most recent blog posts about the NYPL, there were a number of apparently fake comments attributed to Net 54 posters. EDIT TO ADD I may have missed Dan's sarcasm here if I did oops. In any event there are many familiar names "commenting" on his blog who obviously did not post the comments.

slidekellyslide 07-24-2015 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1434629)
On his most recent blog posts about the NYPL, there were a number of apparently fake comments attributed to Net 54 posters. EDIT TO ADD I may have missed Dan's sarcasm here if I did oops. In any event there are many familiar names "commenting" on his blog who obviously did not post the comments.

Yes, he or one of his minions took several quotes from Net54 postings and posted them as if Net54 members were responding to his "blog"...he or one of his minions like to make comments and use the name "Dan" or "Barry S."

Here is a document showing the amounts of unsecured loans he gave to Peter Nash over a short period of time. Perhaps Mr Nash can now bail out Mr Rogers?

ksabet 07-24-2015 09:56 AM

At some point don't these guys realize they will be caught?

It just doesn't make sense. Greed, arrogance, ego, lack of moral character...im guessing all the above have to be present for these jackasses to persist with their ruse. It doesn't make sense that seemingly intelligent people decide to become dumb. Although I keep overpaying for cards so go figure.

Rich Klein 07-24-2015 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 1434606)
Open forums really mean nothing because as soon as the subject matter gets sticky for whoever runs the forum the threads get locked or deleted. They are only open IF people don't bash the owner/owners business. This is a constant problem over on the CU board and many others.

It is the right of any private message board, including this one, to cease, delete or otherwise censor a discussion. Now, that does not mean it's always correct to do so but the owner has the right to do what they wish.

Rich

Luke 07-24-2015 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1434575)
I mean was this guy busted for sports memorabilia fraud or for hanging out near a Chuck E Cheese?

http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn...ed/image_3.jpg

Lol, that was amazing :D

bnorth 07-24-2015 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich Klein (Post 1434674)
It is the right of any private message board, including this one, to cease, delete or otherwise censor a discussion. Now, that does not mean it's always correct to do so but the owner has the right to do what they wish.

Rich

Yes Rich I agree, it is 100% the owners right to do what ever they want on their forum just like Peter Nash can do whatever he wants on his website. My comment was just pointing out open forums are never really open.

Michael B 07-24-2015 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1434575)
Rogers fraud is off the charts....is there a sliding scale for gift baskets for these guys? Sort of like the standard wedding anniversary gifts. You know like 1mm in fraud is paper, 2mm in fraud is silver and so on.....

BTW, if there was ever a photo worthy of an entire thread of PhotoShop fun it's this one. I mean was this guy busted for sports memorabilia fraud or for hanging out near a Chuck E Cheese?

http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn...ed/image_3.jpg

I saw this photo last night just after coming back from the gym. Fortunately, I only had to shower once.

Shoeless Moe 07-24-2015 02:25 PM

"Alleged serial fraudster John Rogers was arrested last night at the Fox & Hound sports tavern in North Little Rock."

Any chance he paid his bill there before he got escorted out? Hopefully they got him before his order of wings were ready.

pariah1107 07-24-2015 02:47 PM

Fox & Hounds Tavern has announced their daily special is a Buck Rogers; a dollar hot dog that is shilled to cost no more than $10 to any customer willing to make the gamble. Warning, dog may be counterfeit, or Type 2.

Shoeless Moe 07-24-2015 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pariah1107 (Post 1434754)
Fox & Hounds Tavern has announced their daily special is a Buck Rogers; a dollar hot dog that is shilled to cost no more than $10 to any customer willing to make the gamble. Warning, dog may be counterfeit, or Type 2.

Hit it one more time




.................................................. ................................the ketchup bottle

darwinbulldog 07-24-2015 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 1434811)
Hit it one more time




.................................................. ................................the ketchup bottle


That's quite good.


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