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yanks12025 05-17-2015 06:42 PM

Off Topic: 1980 Topps
 
Sorry for being off topic and not pre war. But this is beyond stupid. A PSA 9 can sell for under $400. Yet people spend $30,000 just for a stupid 10 grade.

http://www.milehighcardco.com/1980_T...-LOT38559.aspx

Luke 05-17-2015 06:49 PM

I'm completely speechless. Had no idea. Wow.

Laxcat 05-17-2015 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yanks12025 (Post 1412172)
Sorry for being off topic and not pre war. But this is beyond stupid. A PSA 9 can sell for under $400. Yet people spend $30,000 just for a stupid 10 grade.

http://www.milehighcardco.com/1980_T...-LOT38559.aspx

You either love him or hate him. There is no doubt that Rickey collectors are diehard.

yanksfan09 05-17-2015 07:08 PM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-Topps-4...p2047675.l2557

The above respectable raw card just went for 2 bucks, yup a raw ex-mt very respectable copy.... 2 bucks. Slap a number 10 on some plastic and boom....30 grand. Unbelievable!

That's beyond crazy to me. Makes me think of what I could buy with 30k! Certainly wouldn't be card that there's probably over 100,000 of. I have no idea what type of numbers that card was printed in but people I'm sure still have pallets of unopened 1980 topps.

yanksfan09 05-17-2015 07:16 PM

Just noticed the back of that "10" also... Very off center!

I'm sure there are plenty of "9"s that look probably even better with sharp corner and centering and are probably technically better as well with that off centered back.

Crazy registry freaks! No offense to anyone who that may apply too, I just don't get it at all.

travrosty 05-17-2015 07:28 PM

they are collecting numbers, not cards.

Mrvintage 05-17-2015 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by yanksfan09 (Post 1412181)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-Topps-4...p2047675.l2557

The above respectable raw card just went for 2 bucks, yup a raw ex-mt very respectable copy.... 2 bucks. Slap a number 10 on some plastic and boom....30 grand. Unbelievable!

That's beyond crazy to me. Makes me think of what I could buy with 30k! Certainly wouldn't be card that there's probably over 100,000 of. I have no idea what type of numbers that card was printed in but people I'm sure still have pallets of unopened 1980 topps.

Those wax boxes sell for $900-$1000 each so if someone has pallets of unopened 80 topps wax boxes they essentially have a pallet of $$$$$$

dealme 05-17-2015 08:13 PM

Rickey
 
I wonder if the buyer refers to himself in the third person, much as Rickey did? :)

iowadoc77 05-17-2015 08:25 PM

High grade
 
That is absolute lunacy to me. Really? I just can't see the value. Give me a stack of 30 low grade wagners, cobbs, cy youngs, Babe Ruth's, etc over that any day! But we all have different collecting goals. And it doesn't have to make sense to me.

Peter_Spaeth 05-17-2015 08:36 PM

Labels are commodities quite independent of the cards. It has nothing to do with the card, really, because outside of the holder, tossed in with a bunch of very strong 9s, I doubt you could tell the difference or pick out the 10, even with a loupe.

slidekellyslide 05-17-2015 10:33 PM

A grader at PSA could make HUGE $$$ pretty easily I suspect.

toledo_mudhen 05-18-2015 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by slidekellyslide (Post 1412241)
A grader at PSA could make HUGE $$$ pretty easily I suspect.

Which doesn't explain why it has only happened a dozen times or so......

barrysloate 05-18-2015 04:19 AM

Those labels mint money, so you really do have to wonder exactly what is going on.

Leon 05-18-2015 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by barrysloate (Post 1412255)
Those labels mint money, so you really do have to wonder exactly what is going on.

The description in the auction says there are almost 1300 of the 9s. And with around 13 of the 10s I would guess PSA is minting money from grading review submissions on the 9s....

barrysloate 05-18-2015 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1412261)
The description in the auction says there are almost 1300 of the 9s. And with around 13 of the 10s I would guess PSA is minting money from grading review submissions on the 9s....

+1

I'm certain there is a cottage industry of people who do nothing more than submit hundreds of 9's with the hope of getting back a few 10's. Some probably make a high five-figure, or even a six-figure income doing nothing more than looking for nice 9's to resubmit. Like I said, the TPG's are minting money. And where else can you buy something for $400, resubmit it, and if it bumps to a 10 get back a commodity worth 30K? The only thing I can find even remotely comparable is buying a lottery ticket, and hitting a jackpot.

bgar3 05-18-2015 06:55 AM

Barry, there was a comparable of sorts in the 1980's and early 90's in the first edition modern literature bookcollecting world as it pertained to mint condition dust jackets. First books by modern authors were selling for more than nice Fitzgerald or Steinbecks. When the bubble burst the ensuing sell off resulted in what booksellers describe as a race to the bottom. (yes, a few will still hold up, a vast majority did not).

barrysloate 05-18-2015 07:28 AM

Bruce- was it based on the condition of the dust jackets, or on some other factor?

bgar3 05-18-2015 08:45 AM

All condition of the dust jacket, but especially for first books by an author(like rookie cards). They even started to value author signatures only over nice inscriptions, and some of that is still around. Unlike some cards though, printing or binding errors(unless they denote an issue point), destroy the value entirely.

yanks12025 05-18-2015 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1412261)
The description in the auction says there are almost 1300 of the 9s. And with around 13 of the 10s I would guess PSA is minting money from grading review submissions on the 9s....

WOW.. And I bet those 13 10's were done for only special people.

grainsley 05-18-2015 07:16 PM

An egotist and his money are soon parted.

conor912 05-18-2015 07:25 PM

30k....
 
that's a lot of hookers and blow


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