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jimivintage 04-03-2015 06:49 PM

T206 Matty Broadleaf 350 confirmed!!!! Crap....
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171735332443...torefresh=true

OK...so who won it????

Always assumed to exist, but now confirmed.... I tried but lost!

Jimi

Thromdog 04-03-2015 06:54 PM

I was nervous watching that one.....terrible picture.

Luke 04-03-2015 07:00 PM

I didn't like the colors on that card at all. But every other card in the auctions looked good to me.

Jobu 04-03-2015 07:11 PM

I was watching too, exciting card. Not to be a stick in the mud here, but don't we usually wait a few days before posting something like this to prevent interference? (Note: I did not win)

sreader3 04-03-2015 07:25 PM

Boom. All of the six superprints are theoretically possible with both BL 350 and BL 460. Probably just a matter of time til we see them all. Of course we could have the situation where one or two were printed but simply did not survive.

Scot

mrvster 04-03-2015 07:31 PM

i got killed
 
on my bid:mad:

MVSNYC 04-03-2015 07:41 PM

Rather weird wear on the card...semi-square top corners, and very rounded bottom corners? Just seems odd.

CW 04-03-2015 08:36 PM

Did anyone email the seller to confirm that the Broadleaf back matched up with Matty? I mean, it looks pretty obvious, but I'm just curious if anyone pressed the issue.

This auctioned whoooooshed over my head. I am impressed with the passion you guys have for this set. Good stuff.

swarmee 04-03-2015 08:55 PM

The description says that the Mathewson is the Broad Leaf, but it could be a rebacked card. Just looks like a strange card. I hope whoever did win it will let us know the finding.

nolemmings 04-03-2015 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVSNYC (Post 1397861)
Rather weird wear on the card...semi-square top corners, and very rounded bottom corners? Just seems odd.

+1. VERY noticeable difference in corner wear. Hard to explain.

Harford20 04-03-2015 09:05 PM

Ouch!
 
A "no bid" here as my pitiful bid was bested by 5 other people.

Jobu 04-03-2015 09:16 PM

The card looks short to me. If it started life as a tall boy, or even as a normal card that was slightly off-center with more space at the top (the name is close to the bottom of the card so this might be the case) then a single trim on the top could explain the difference and they might not have trimmed the bottom because any trim there would have trimmed the name off. It would be great if it were real - my concern was a frankencard with a front and back stuck together.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nolemmings (Post 1397908)
+1. VERY noticeable difference in corner wear. Hard to explain.


Luke 04-03-2015 11:43 PM

I'm guessing fake front real back. Hopefully I'm wrong and the buyer got a nice deal. I hope we'll find out.

T206Collector 04-04-2015 04:52 AM

I also think it is a rebacked card.

Brian Weisner 04-04-2015 06:29 AM

I have seen several dozen rebacked cards over the last ten years.... Many in TPG holders. Most have the same corner wear, a few creases and some notching on the side, as well as a few other "tells" that I won't mention here.
Be well Brian

PS This card doesn't even look like one of the "better" rebacks from the scan.

ullmandds 04-04-2015 08:02 AM

looks altered to me...I was scrutinizing the rounded corners esp on the bottom...compare the curvature and weird looking wear on the left front to the right back....the corners just don't seem to line up perfectly...as they should. for sure trimmed to fit as well.

Tao_Moko 04-04-2015 08:15 AM

I think it's suspect that it's hidden in with a group of other beaters. Does not look like the makings of a group that was found together. I hope it's the real deal but too many red flags for me.

wolf441 04-04-2015 10:20 AM

If you look at his feedback, the first couple of items have "reproductions" included as part of the items sold.

Blunder19 04-04-2015 10:28 AM

FYI. SGC shows 2 being graded.. why was the card on the unconfirmed list.. matty dark cap with BL350.. i think the card was confirmed before this auction.

Jobu 04-04-2015 11:19 AM

I think the two SGC cards are 1911 BL, which is their way of denoting BL 460 of which they have graded two. A BL 350 would show up at SGC as 1910 BL, of which there are 0 for this (PSA also has 0). Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I think this remains unconfirmed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blunder19 (Post 1398025)
FYI. SGC shows 2 being graded.. why was the card on the unconfirmed list.. matty dark cap with BL350.. i think the card was confirmed before this auction.


caramelcard 04-04-2015 11:34 AM

Reback. Several hofers have been rebacked with broadleaf.

Rob

buymycards 04-04-2015 11:44 AM

listing
 
It is interesting that he listed his T206's under "Cards" "Other", rather than "Cards" "Baseball" .

Pat R 04-04-2015 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jobu (Post 1398039)
I think the two SGC cards are 1911 BL, which is their way of denoting BL 460 of which they have graded two. A BL 350 would show up at SGC as 1910 BL, of which there are 0 for this (PSA also has 0). Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I think this remains unconfirmed.

You're correct Bryan if the pop report says 1911 it would be BL 460.

insccollectibles 04-04-2015 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeLyon (Post 1397927)
I'm guessing fake front real back. Hopefully I'm wrong and the buyer got a nice deal. I hope we'll find out.

+1

atx840 04-04-2015 01:11 PM

I've seen one SGC A Matty BL460, its a beauty. I believe all 6 super prints were printed in both series but in such low numbers.

Interesting fact: There are 34 possible BL460s, 33 of those have been found as yellow brown scraps, no others are known. Chase dark cap is the last on to be found. Same sheet?? :)

mrvster 04-04-2015 03:13 PM

holy crap....
 
:eek:

that would be INSANE! the sc 350-460 no overprints????:confused:

Brian Van Horn 04-04-2015 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVSNYC (Post 1397861)
Rather weird wear on the card...semi-square top corners, and very rounded bottom corners? Just seems odd.

It was owned by a little old lady. She only took it out on weekends. :D

rebelsart 04-04-2015 08:06 PM

Re: T206 Matty Broadleaf 350
 
Put me in the re-backed camp on this one. Horrible scans and card looks completely altered/re-backed.
Art M.

arc2q 04-04-2015 08:39 PM

the seller could not have underplayed this more than he did. If it's not real than the seller deserves an Oscar for slipping a golden egg into an otherwise seemingly innocuous listing.

jimivintage 10-17-2015 11:38 AM

Did anyone hear what happened with this lot? Is the Broadleaf 350 Matty real??

iwantitiwinit 10-17-2015 01:02 PM

No way this way real, has to be rebacked. The seller has lots of experience selling cards (see previous sales). He would know what he had if it was a true BL and it would be advertised to a much higher level, fake in my opinion and no way worth laying out 2k plus for the lot.

pherbener 10-17-2015 04:58 PM

I was wondering too
 
I e-mailed the seller at the time of the auction and he said he would guarantee my bid if it ended up being fake. I ended up being outbid at the very end. Wondered if someone here won it and had it checked out.
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimivintage (Post 1462557)
Did anyone hear what happened with this lot? Is the Broadleaf 350 Matty real??


Leon 10-18-2015 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimivintage (Post 1462557)
Did anyone hear what happened with this lot? Is the Broadleaf 350 Matty real??

Would be nice to hear about it...

Jobu 10-18-2015 09:38 PM

I know the guy who bought this. He said it was ok if I shared: when he got it in hand it was clearly rebacked - the card was returned for a full refund. The search for Matty continues ...

Leon 10-19-2015 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jobu (Post 1463054)
I know the guy who bought this. He said it was ok if I shared: when he got it in hand it was clearly rebacked - the card was returned for a full refund. The search for Matty continues ...

Thanks for the update!!


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