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bn2cardz 03-04-2015 07:33 AM

Philadelphia Athletics composite with Mack, Bender, Collins ca.1910
 
I just purchased this large composite of the Phil. Athletics. I know this same image is used on a post card, but this is 16.5" x 13.5". Does anyone know anything about these.

Were these a display piece at stores?

On the back is written something in pencil that looks like "Oak Good Grocery Mart". I do plan to get photos of the back, but don't have any right now.

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/...psk8aegx2k.jpg

springpin 03-04-2015 08:09 AM

This image was the basis for a beautifully made pinback, about 2.5" in diameter. I nearly went blind trying to read the names of the players beneath their picture. The reduction in size from poster to pin was so great that the first few times I looked at the pin I didn't realize there were names beneath their pictures. I always wondered about the basis of the pin. What a great discovery!

Paul

bn2cardz 03-04-2015 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by springpin (Post 1386997)
This image was the basis for a beautifully made pinback, about 2.5" in diameter. I nearly went blind trying to read the names of the players beneath their picture. The reduction in size from poster to pin was so great that the first few times I looked at the pin I didn't realize there were names beneath their pictures. I always wondered about the basis of the pin. What a great discovery!

Paul

I didn't know about the pin. I did find what you were talking about:
http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Ite...7554a_med.jpeg

I only knew about the postcard:
http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/...Item_149_1.jpg

packs 03-04-2015 08:17 AM

Kind of looks like a notebook cover to me.

bn2cardz 03-04-2015 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 1387001)
Kind of looks like a notebook cover to me.

At 16"x 13" that is highly unlikely.

packs 03-04-2015 08:51 AM

It doesn't have to be for standard writing paper. Could be some kind of slate? The grocery store notation on the back is why I mention it. Doesn't seem to be a display, unless it looks like maybe a stand was torn off the back.

bn2cardz 03-04-2015 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 1387013)
It doesn't have to be for standard writing paper. Could be some kind of slate? The grocery store notation on the back is why I mention it. Doesn't seem to be a display, unless it looks like maybe a stand was torn off the back.

Oh come on they don't need a pad of paper that large, they would just use computers :cool:

I am still not thinking it was a notebook cover (I could be wrong, and am ok with that). The size just doesn't lend itself to something of that use. Also there are no indications on the sides of it being attached to something prior or of it being cut down. There is a pin hole on the top making me think someone did hang it up at one point, but even if it was part of a large notebook it could have been hung up at a later date.

I will point out that this must have been the original usage of the image, as the other two items just scaled this down to fit sizes that didn't match up.

The individual I bought it from couldn't remember where he got it from. When I asked him if he knew anything and if he remembered the origins this was his response:

Quote:

Sorry I dont. I've had it a long time and don't even remember where I got it. I always meant to bring it to a restorer but never did. I always like it because it was a match for the postcard I mentioned, which I had. I would guess it was originally a store display but don't know for sure.

I've never seen another one.
I will say that the writing on the back isn't that clear, and have never really been that great at deciphering illegible writing. When I get an image I can get more opinions on what is written.

springpin 03-04-2015 09:31 AM

Andy,

Unless the players featured on your poster were on both the 1910 and 1911 teams, you (we, the hobby) would no longer have to say "circa." The pin made from this poster sort of has a mate. It shows just the heads of the players superimposed on an elephant. And the image on that particular pin I have seen in other objects. One is a dinner plate, I believe.

sporteq 03-05-2015 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bn2cardz (Post 1387003)
At 16"x 13" that is highly unlikely.

Here you go.. very cool display!


Albert

http://i61.tinypic.com/35a8az8.jpg

Darner 03-05-2015 07:40 PM

Great piece. That image was also used as the cover of some sheet music called "World Champions March" published by Joseph Palladino of Camden, NJ.

bn2cardz 03-06-2015 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sporteq (Post 1387561)
Here you go.. very cool display!


Albert

http://i61.tinypic.com/35a8az8.jpg

Thank you for that. That one is definitely in much better condition (even if the matte is hiding some edge flaws), but amazing you have to go back to 2001 to find another example.

I have been sick the last two days so when I have been home I have been in bed. Hopefully this weekend I will get a photo of the reverse (the photo I posted is the photo given to me by Lew). It is a mainly blank reverse other than the writing, but at least you would have a better idea of what this piece looks like.

sporteq 03-06-2015 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bn2cardz (Post 1387637)
Thank you for that. That one is definitely in much better condition (even if the matte is hiding some edge flaws), but amazing you have to go back to 2001 to find another example.

I have been sick the last two days so when I have been home I have been in bed. Hopefully this weekend I will get a photo of the reverse (the photo I posted is the photo given to me by Lew). It is a mainly blank reverse other than the writing, but at least you would have a better idea of what this piece looks like.

Sorry, you not well. I hope you feel better soon! I've seen a few in various auctions and remembered Hunt had one up for grabs. Glad I can be of help.

Albert

bn2cardz 05-09-2015 07:25 PM

I finally got around to taking photos of the back and the text written on it. The text could mean nothing, and started swaying that way which is why I delayed taking photos.

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/...psmulvhn88.jpg
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/...psp9zam1gg.jpg

Full disclosure: I did originally buy this to stay in my collection. Due to life circumstances I am now looking to make my collection a lot smaller. That is why I finally got around to doing the photos because I want to inventory to seek out auction houses if I decide to go through with the selling.


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