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bwild22 02-11-2015 07:25 PM

HELPPPP with this 1952 Mantle
 
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Is this the real deal? Any advice would be appreciated - the seller claims it has been in his family since it was new

sycks22 02-11-2015 07:26 PM

Psa 5

bwild22 02-11-2015 07:28 PM

any help on whether its atleast authentic or not would be much appreciated

ruth-gehrig 02-11-2015 07:29 PM

Its been in the family since new......so a couple years? :p

Rollingstone206 02-11-2015 07:29 PM

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Leon 02-11-2015 07:33 PM

I guess there is "some" entertainment value here.

bwild22 02-11-2015 07:39 PM

so i take that to mean no good?

tedzan 02-11-2015 07:41 PM

It looks like some sort of reprint to me.

The original 1952 Topps Mantle was DOUBLE-PRINTED, and there are obvious "distinct differences" on the fronts of the two actual prints.

This image you have posted here is not consistent with these "distinct differences" in the DOUBLE-PRINTED Mantle cards.


TED Z

bwild22 02-11-2015 07:46 PM

Thank you... i was scared of that... the back showed type 2 to me, but i didnt see the overhang on the corners or the missing pixel on the left on the front... i appreciate the help

Theo_450 02-11-2015 07:49 PM

Artificial mouse damage. What is next?

bwild22 02-11-2015 07:51 PM

facebook user, profile pic is a man and wife and the man is a in a cop uniform.... said it was in his family since it was new.... makes things more fun all the time

Rollingstone206 02-11-2015 08:51 PM

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Misha 02-12-2015 06:34 AM

Just curious, if it was a real 52 Mantle in this terrible condition, how much do you think it would go for?

vintagehofrookies 02-12-2015 07:55 AM

after looking at it for 2 sec. I could see its not an authentic 52

CW 02-12-2015 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Misha (Post 1379266)
Just curious, if it was a real 52 Mantle in this terrible condition, how much do you think it would go for?

My guess would be in the $2500-$3000 range, but it's tough to estimate a collector value when 20% of the card is missing.

Another tell tale sign of artificial aging... notice how the card is all creased up and ripped, but the corners are overall fairly sharp. The wear is inconsistent.

The biggest flag, though, is in the image. The color and print are all wrong, as other have noticed and pointed out.

freakhappy 02-12-2015 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CW (Post 1379330)
My guess would be in the $2500-$3000 range, but it's tough to estimate a collector value when 20% of the card is missing.

Another tell tale sign of artificial aging... notice how the card is all creased up and ripped, but the corners are overall fairly sharp. The wear is inconsistent.

The biggest flag, though, is in the image. The color and print are all wrong, as other have noticed and pointed out.

Do you think it would still go for that price range considering a chunk of it is missing? I don't doubt you Chuck, because I know you're a beast in the collecting world :D, but that seems like a lot...I would guess around 1-1.5k, but I'm not an expert on '52 Mantle's. That being said, the most important parts of the card are still intact, so maybe it would be closer to your guesstimate.

CW 02-12-2015 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by freakhappy (Post 1379334)
Do you think it would still go for that price range considering a chunk of it is missing? I don't doubt you Chuck, because I know you're a beast in the collecting world :D, but that seems like a lot...I would guess around 1-1.5k, but I'm not an expert on '52 Mantle's. That being said, the most important parts of the card are still intact, so maybe it would be closer to your guesstimate.

:D HAha... I'm no beast, Mike, but I appreciate the compliment. :)

I think you are right and I was off on the first estimate -- $2K tops with that much missing, and your 1.5K looks good.

The damage on the fake Mantle posted in the OP is so over the top. We see a lot of beaters in the hobby, many cards that are "well loved", but it seems rare to find a card ripped up like that (usually at that point the card would be tossed out, not worth saving).


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