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swarmee 01-26-2015 03:35 PM

So... what is the proper cooling off period
 
For a hidden gem auction on eBay that has closed? One full business day so that the item can be shipped? Three business days?

What say ye? I will wait the appropriate period of time before asking who won an auction this weekend that was poorly advertised, but still had a spirited bidding war.

Stonepony 01-26-2015 03:41 PM

Sadly there are those that will contact the seller and ask to be sold the item despite a closed auction...and sadly there are auction sellers that would respond and sell the item from under the auction winner. I'd wait at least 3 days.

Sean1125 01-26-2015 03:49 PM

Item in hand or 10 days.

jp1216 01-26-2015 04:00 PM

Great topic. I like the 10 day rule.

bnorth 01-26-2015 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean1125 (Post 1372076)
Item in hand or 10 days.

+1

Leon 01-26-2015 04:20 PM

Two days after notice of shipment, with tracking, is fairly safe...

Exhibitman 01-26-2015 04:27 PM

Gotta wait until the tracking shows actual dispatch from the originating post office. There are too many people with no class who will try to undermine a deal otherwise.

Bicem 01-26-2015 06:27 PM

10 days after item in hand just to be safe that it wasn't just all a dream.

Sean1125 01-26-2015 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bicem (Post 1372185)
10 days after item in hand just to be safe that it wasn't just all a dream.

+10

bobbvc 01-26-2015 06:39 PM

Item in hand. Period.

swarmee 01-26-2015 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbvc (Post 1372194)
Item in hand. Period.

So how would I know that unless I'm the buyer? I guess that's why everyone is recommending 10 days, rather than 3. Maybe they're worried the post office will read about it and steal it during transit...

Fred 01-26-2015 06:44 PM

Bob, thank you for not saying "package in hand".... that would have been a bit weird....:p

4815162342 01-26-2015 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bicem (Post 1372185)
10 days after item in hand just to be safe that it wasn't just all a dream.


Better take the red pill - just to be sure.

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20060821153653

bobbvc 01-26-2015 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 1372196)
So how would I know that unless I'm the buyer? I guess that's why everyone is recommending 10 days, rather than 3. Maybe they're worried the post office will read about it and steal it during transit...

Guess I misunderstood. I thought you were talking about the winning bidder.

swarmee 02-03-2015 03:33 PM

So who won this item? Someone on this board?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331452316059...84.m1435.l2649

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAxOFgxNj...Uuomp/$_57.JPG

Since I've waited the requisite 10 days. Nice pickup of a poorly identified "Speckled/Spotted/Dotted" tie card.

autograf 02-03-2015 04:09 PM

I didn't win but I did contact the seller and tell him/her not to sell them on a clandestine buy it now deal........he's primarily a nonsport guy but does have the occasional BB item.....

Jobu 02-03-2015 05:20 PM

For the people (like me) who still have a lot to learn about OJs, can someone please explain the significance of this card as well as provide an approximate price had it been better advertised? Gracias.

gnaz01 02-04-2015 03:35 AM

Spotted Tie versions go for big $$$

DixieBaseball 02-04-2015 04:37 AM

Raw...
 
It's always nice to see a shot of hope splashed on ebay in raw form. What a nice OJ! If graded, I am going with VG to VG+, maybe vg-ex.

So if this Spotted Tie is graded SGC 45 VG+, what is the going price at auction?

packs 02-04-2015 07:05 AM

I'm curious too. It seems like the prices are all over the place for the spotted ties. I know some players only have a spotted tie card in the set, and other players are expensive for other reasons (like Behel).

An SGC 86 spotted tie sold for $3,500 in Legendary last year. An SGC 80 went for $2,500 in Goodwin last year. Makes it hard to guess value.

autograf 02-04-2015 07:55 AM

$1000-$2000? I think SGC40-45 sounds right.....maybe outside 40. Picture is a little light.

RGold 02-04-2015 08:58 AM

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Darn, I was hoping the lot went that high because of the N76 Samuel Morse. :D:D:D


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Runscott 02-04-2015 09:52 AM

I'm not understanding the responses on length of the 'cooling off period'.

Members here regularly post links to ebay auctions that just ended. Am I not understanding the question? :confused:

veloce 02-04-2015 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 1375787)
I'm not understanding the responses on length of the 'cooling off period'.

Members here regularly post links to ebay auctions that just ended. Am I not understanding the question? :confused:

The idea is that if you out an auction that has just ended under market value, unscrupulous buyers may contact an unscrupulous seller and collude to cancel the sale. By waiting 10 days to out the auction, the seller will have shipped the card and can't try to sell it for a better offer.

Runscott 02-04-2015 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by veloce (Post 1375794)
The idea is that if you out an auction that has just ended under market value, unscrupulous buyers may contact an unscrupulous seller and collude to cancel the sale. By waiting 10 days to out the auction, the seller will have shipped the card and can't try to sell it for a better offer.

I understand the reasons, I just don't understand Net54 members responding as such, given that we regularly post ebay links as soon as an auction ends;i.e-we are posting theory, not action.

insccollectibles 02-04-2015 01:44 PM

I thought you were referring to this at first

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-1911-T2...item2c96596bf4

vintagehofrookies 02-04-2015 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ins02 (Post 1375888)
I thought you were referring to this at first

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-1911-T2...item2c96596bf4

wow looks like someone forgot a 0 on that price

MattyC 02-04-2015 02:29 PM

Those beards are powerful.

Econteachert205 02-04-2015 02:52 PM

I waited until this was in hand before saying anything...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/201217695219...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Exhibitman 02-04-2015 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 1375805)
I understand the reasons, I just don't understand Net54 members responding as such, given that we regularly post ebay links as soon as an auction ends;i.e-we are posting theory, not action.

If I have no skin in the game, I don't bother worrying about when to post about an interesting item. I thought it was a winner asking how long to wait until posting about a lucky snag. I always wait until I see the tracking showing actual deposit in the mail. Once that happens I feel safe to divulge a big win publicly.

Not that anyone would bother interfering with the crap I collect...

Sean 02-04-2015 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ins02 (Post 1375888)
I thought you were referring to this at first

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-1911-T2...item2c96596bf4

How the hell did this happen? :eek:

If I sound angry, it's only because I'm mad at myself.

Eric72 02-04-2015 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1375970)
How the hell did this happen? :eek:

If I sound angry, it's only because I'm mad at myself.

Apparently, it didn't. The same seller has the card up again, with a BIN of $4,750.

Jobu 02-04-2015 07:12 PM

I guarantee you it didn't actually happen. I bought a few others at similar prices only to have the sales canceled and my money refunded on the same day.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 1375976)
Apparently, it didn't. The same seller has the card up again, with a BIN of $4,750.


insccollectibles 02-04-2015 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 1375976)
Apparently, it didn't. The same seller has the card up again, with a BIN of $4,750.

I just looked and you guys are right. Looks like a lot of the cards sold are now back up for sale.

freakhappy 02-04-2015 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1375970)
How the hell did this happen? :eek:



If I sound angry, it's only because I'm mad at myself.


It was a crazy mistake by a very reputable dealer. I too, noticed that they got relisted. When I first saw them I was so mad because I missed out, but I figured they were going to pop up again and sure enough they did. Deals like that never seem to happen!

Leon 02-05-2015 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freakhappy (Post 1376096)
It was a crazy mistake by a very reputable dealer. I too, noticed that they got relisted. When I first saw them I was so mad because I missed out, but I figured they were going to pop up again and sure enough they did. Deals like that never seem to happen!

Joe is an honest guy and a good dealer. Mistakes happen and I wouldn't honor an obvious big mistake either. I wouldn't mind getting that card posted for a hundred dollars though.

freakhappy 02-05-2015 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1376201)
Joe is an honest guy and a good dealer. Mistakes happen and I wouldn't honor an obvious big mistake either. I wouldn't mind getting that card posted for a hundred dollars though.


I agree, Joe is one of the best in the business. I bought my first t206 lot from him four years ago and continue to buy from him today.

When I checked out the completed listings and saw that I couldn't believe it and when I saw who the seller was, I was in shock [emoji33]


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