Player and Set Pronunciations
 

It's interesting to me how player and set pronunciations can vary within the hobby. For example, I've always thought Cicotte was pronounced as 'see-kot', but recently heard a dealer say 'chick-coat-ee'.

Anyone have a player or set pronunciation they've wondered about?

Lajoie

Being a silly Canadian I pronounced it like a wonderful, warm desert. Pie....dmont.

Pretty sure Ken Burns pronounces it "La Ja Way"

Honus Wagner
 

Given that the man's first name was Johannes...and the shortened version, "Hans" is found somewhat frequently...I believe Wagner's name was pronounced, "HA-nis" and not, "HO-nis."

Disclaimer: I have no idea how to write true phonetics. The above was merely a crude attempt by a "numbers guy" to write down how a word is pronounced.

Goudey... goo-dee / gow-dee?

I believe it is see-kot

It is see-kot. There is even a Cicotte Avenue in Detroit named for Eddie, and the locals all call it see-kot.

UH-zit
OOH-zit
YOU-zit
uh-ZIT
ooh-ZIT
you-ZIT

Shall I ask Mister Owl?

Until recently I pronounced it "fine" and not "fee-nee"


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Pretty sure Ken Burns doesn't know what he's talking about at times.

Pronunciation
 

(Deacon) Phillippe = FIL - ah - pee

A lot of them are mentioned by their contemporaries in the audio version of "The Glory Of Their Times," and I would go with that. For example, "Sy-Kot" and "Laa-jah-way."

I had a dealer call it good ee, like "an oldie but a goodie."

When I was a kid I would see Red Schoendienst listed in price guides and had no idea how to say it. I was amazed when I heard someone else say it for the first time. Shane-deenst.

Eric:
I asked my father about this, as he was born in 1931, and his dad (my grandfather) in 1901. He said that when Honus Wagner was a coach of the Pirates from the 1930s through the early 1950s Honus was referd to as "HOE-NUS." Also, my grandfather, who was in his teens during Honus' playing days, said that his name was "HOE-NUS".

Hope that helps....

Is the second "p" in Topps silent?

The actor Ryan Phillippe is Deacon's great nephew and even named his child Deacon Phillippe. He pronounces it fil-EEP. But I guess that doesn't mean much as the name has probably changed in pronunciation and spelling as the family became more Americanized.

I've asked before but is it Sweet CAP-er-ul or cuh-POOR-ul?

I always pronounce it kaa-poor-ahl. But I'm from Jersey so take that with a large grain of salt.

Tom C

Nice one, Frank...could not resist... it's like the silent "p" in "swimming"....:)

Really? I think I've always heard him referred to as FIL-A-PEE


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According to dictionary.com, the accent does not fall on the second syllable. Caporal is a type of tobacco, which is typically pronounced with an accent on the first syllable, and sometimes the third.

So, it is CAP-uh-rahl or cap-uh-RAHL.

Can someone please tell me how to pronounce Adolfo Luque? Is it loo-KAY?

Goudey: 'gow-dee'

Uzit: 'you-zit'

Always wondered about Luque as well, Sean.

Edit: What about Fatima? 'fa-team-uh' or 'fat-im-uh'?

Luke.

I think.

Tom C

A lot of the players in 1939 can be heard talking on radio from Cooperstown. Obviously they pronounce the names correctly. I believe La-zha-way is how Nap is announced by the MC. You can pick up the CD here:

http://www.amazon.com/1939-Baseball-...seball+1939+cd

I've heard both of the Fatima versions. Anyone know which is correct? I always say fa-team-uh.

I have consulted my wife the entertainment guru as well as the Oracle (Google). You are correct. Ryan Phillippe is #1 on the "Celebrities Whose Names You Are Probably Mispronouncing" list. It is, therefore, Deacon FIL-A-PEE.

This thread reminds me of the old SNL skit with Nicholas Cage.

His character's last name was Asswipe.

Pronounced as-wee-pay

Cy-cot-e

Sweet-Cap-Or-Al

Gow-dee

U-zit

T-2-oh-6

I've always wondered about Bob Unglaub.... is it Un-glob or Oon-glob (oon as pronounced in noon or soon)?

I read somewhere that Johnny Evers was pronounced Ev-ers in baseball circles, but he grew up as E-vers and was always known in his hometown as such.

It's OON-GLOB!!, but you have to say it with a strident German accent! That's the only name that my wife and kids remember from the T206 set. It's just a fun name to say!! :D

He should have used an umlaut:)

Steve,

Speaking of German name pronunciations: How do you pronounce your last name ? Wayl-ful ?

Although Austrian decent, Gross is Gross (as in "eeewww gross :rolleyes:), not rhyming with cross.

....... and speaking of strident German accents:

Schlei = Schlay

Wiltse = Wilt - za

Larry Lajoie is the one that comes up the most. This is what ive heard over the years la-joy ,
la-ja-way, la-ja-wee. Ive heard more than one dealer pronounce it (la-hoy). Made me smirk.

I've heard it pronounced a bunch of different ways. In my family, it's always been pronounced "Well-Full".

I once met a German woman who said it would have been pronounced "Volf-Lee", meaning "little wolf", but I've never heard anyone else pronounce it that way. And I think everyone in my family has had the nickname "Waffles" in school at one point in their lives! :D