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DixieBaseball 12-31-2014 05:44 PM

Please show a card more rare than Wagner (T206)
 
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Mike's (Freak happy) thread got me to thinking about the word rare and the T-206 Wagner and I couldn't help but think about all those posts we have read over the years about a collector's definition of the word rare. Well, I won't opine on the "rarity" of the T206 Wagner and it's value, but I would love to see a card you have that is more rare or scarce if you will. I am in a playful mood this New Year's Eve and would love to just keep this thread going into 2015 if the board thinks we can do it? It's simple. If you have a card that you know there is less than 75 examples known, please show an example. This will be fun... I will get it started :D HAPPY NEW YEAR NET 54! :

Leon 12-31-2014 05:53 PM

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this should work...

vthobby 12-31-2014 06:02 PM

Hoops
 
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This is the VERY First Basketball card ever! Card #1!

25 exist in this grade with only 4 higher!

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peace, mike

birdman42 12-31-2014 06:05 PM

OK, I'll play
 
I know of only a baker's dozen of these, including a Cobb, Matty, and Lajoie.

Bill

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...t.jpg~original

LKeeler 12-31-2014 06:10 PM

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This Tinker variation has a pop of one graded by SGC, and mine is the lone example graded by PSA. Take that Hans!

ZachS 12-31-2014 06:15 PM

Jerome, that Street Coupon is a stunner. I love it.

I never really get tired of this one. On a side note, I should probably buy a better scanner...

http://www.louisianacards.com/upload...63269_orig.jpg

Luke 12-31-2014 06:17 PM

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This must be pretty easy if I can do it, seeing as I mainly collect t206 and a couple of the easier caramel sets.

paul 12-31-2014 06:22 PM

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How about these.

Peter_Spaeth 12-31-2014 06:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vtgmsc (Post 1360881)
This is the VERY First Basketball card ever! Card #1!

25 exist in this grade with only 4 higher!

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peace, mike

So what's this?

frohme 12-31-2014 06:27 PM

Somewhat on point
 
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Until recently, I had one that qualified - now in the hands of another board member.

Generally considered unique - authenticity a source of ongoing debate.

sniffy5 12-31-2014 06:33 PM

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Here's a 1914 CJ that many feel is the best pose in the set. And while an argument can be made that each 1914 CJ may be more scarce than Honus, here is one that surely is...

vthobby 12-31-2014 06:34 PM

yes
 
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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1360897)
So what's this?

Of course.....I should have said 1st EXCLUSIVE basketball set, sorry.

On a side note, I just talked on the phone with a friend who met Nat when he was a kid, now that is pretty cool!

Nice card also!

peace, mike

buymycards 12-31-2014 06:37 PM

Holsum
 
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1920 Holsum, none graded by PSA and 3 by SGC.

x2drich2000 12-31-2014 06:40 PM

Last I checked this was 1 of only 3 graded, and by far the worst condition of the 3.

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=15124http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=15125

DJ

gnaz01 12-31-2014 06:48 PM

I'll play
 
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Less than half a dozen of these.......

Section103 12-31-2014 06:55 PM

Im a firm believer that cards more rare than the Wagner
 
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are quite numerous in example.

Bicem 12-31-2014 06:57 PM

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47...psceee9f31.jpg

GoudeyGum 12-31-2014 07:35 PM

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...775ca4bbe5.jpg

deadballfreaK 12-31-2014 07:39 PM

Probably less than 20 of these.
http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2f36e10b.jpg

Kenny Cole 12-31-2014 07:50 PM

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Pretty much all of the 1920's Cuban issues.

edjs 12-31-2014 07:56 PM

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Far as I know, this would be one. Anyone know of more than 75?

ValKehl 12-31-2014 08:07 PM

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Based on the PSA & SGC pop reports, these are the only known examples of these T214 cards known to exist. And, there may be fewer T214s in existence of all players than there are T206 Wagners in existence. Further, I daresay there are thousands of pre-War cards of which there are fewer than 75 examples known to exist - in other words, there is nothing "rare" about the T206 Wagner - INHO, it a stretch even consider it to be "scarce" in relation to most other pre-War cards!
Val

DixieBaseball 12-31-2014 09:19 PM

Wag's...
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by ValKehl (Post 1360930)
Based on the PSA & SGC pop reports, these are the only known examples of these T214 cards known to exist. And, there may be fewer T214s in existence of all players than there are T206 Wagners in existence. Further, I daresay there are thousands of pre-War cards of which there are fewer than 75 examples known to exist - in other words, there is nothing "rare" about the T206 Wagner - INHO, it a stretch even consider it to be "scarce" in relation to most other pre-War cards!
Val

Val,
You nailed it and thus what makes this thread so much fun. We could keep this thread going for 365 more days and still not run out of examples that are more scarce than Wagner. Yes, you are correct... Wagner is in fact not rare at all and I would say is not scarce in population. Just hoarded by folks with lots of money. (Gotta park it somewhere!) It's the most over rated, overhyped, over marketed card ever. Nice card, but nothing special imho. I think the Baltimore Ruth or the Cobb w/ Cobb back should be worth way more than the T-Wags. --- To keep this thread going, here is another one. This time a HOFer... There are easily less than 50 of these...

arc2q 12-31-2014 09:20 PM

Pretty Much Any Coupon Fits the Criteria
 
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Between PSA and SGC there are about 11 of the T213-2 Frank Chance Batting (New York). This is likely the ugliest of them.

clydepepper 12-31-2014 10:00 PM

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The only rarer ones than this don't exist:

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freakhappy 12-31-2014 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sniffy5 (Post 1360903)
Here's a 1914 CJ that many feel is the best pose in the set. And while an argument can be made that each 1914 CJ may be more scarce than Honus, here is one that surely is...

Great spinoff thread! This should be a great thread to subscribe to...go back and drool whenever you get bored or just want to look at some great cardboard.

Sniffy5...I love that cj. That may be my favorite card/pose of any cj...just fantastical!

sporteq 12-31-2014 10:49 PM

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/...tem_8168_1.jpg

Sean 12-31-2014 11:02 PM

I'm speechless, and that doesn't happen often. :eek::cool::eek:

jcmtiger 12-31-2014 11:17 PM

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This is rarer than the Wagner, if anyone has one let's see it. Really like to see a Cobb.

larger than a card, but I call it a card. 4 3/4 x 6 3/4.

Joe

Mikehealer 12-31-2014 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1360965)
I'm speechless, and that doesn't happen often. :eek::cool::eek:

Well typed.

slipk1068 12-31-2014 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikehealer (Post 1360968)
Well typed.

Need to add a few :eek::eek::eek:

pcoz 12-31-2014 11:27 PM

1910 E-UNC Wagner
 
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One of only 2 known......

DeanH3 12-31-2014 11:31 PM

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps81335320.jpghttp://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...psb2301273.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps443c222e.jpghttp://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...psad514bc8.jpg

brianp-beme 12-31-2014 11:47 PM

M116 Smith - Boston
 
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Only one of these variations known...

Brian

Batter67up 12-31-2014 11:51 PM

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Here is one I have.

joeadcock 01-01-2015 09:12 AM

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Only one known

Leon 01-01-2015 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by joeadcock (Post 1361023)
Only one known

Nice. I am only aware of 3 cards known with that back.

tedzan 01-01-2015 10:01 AM

1 of only 2 (Highest graded)


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...kHerzog50x.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...0Herzog50b.jpg



TED Z
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kkkkandp 01-01-2015 11:51 AM

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Lots of Old Judges are...

cdn_collector 01-01-2015 12:14 PM

My uneducated guess is that there are fewer than 50 of each card in each of these sets.

Cheers,

Richard.

<img width="300" src="http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/georgegibson/baseball-cards/12239/1909-colgans-proof" />

<IMG width="300" src="http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/georgegibson/baseball-cards/13915/1910-orange-borders" />

<IMG width="300" src="http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/georgegibson/baseball-cards/12142/1913-voskamps-coffee" />

<IMG width="300" src="http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/georgegibson/baseball-cards/18120/1922-w501" />

pkaufman 01-01-2015 12:21 PM

D380 Chase
 
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The only known example.

Epps 01-01-2015 12:32 PM

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My favorite card

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Bicem 01-01-2015 12:38 PM

Awesome Chase Paul! I know of at least one person who's envious.

HRBAKER 01-01-2015 12:39 PM

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...lankRosePC.jpghttp://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...chTypChief.jpghttp://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...er/JuJu001.jpghttp://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps45e19fde.jpghttp://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...psf7daf12e.jpghttp://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...vis_PSAA_A.jpg

sniffy5 01-01-2015 12:40 PM

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Ditto

frohme 01-01-2015 12:46 PM

More of "less than"
 
Nice Smith, Brian! Didn't know that variation existed.

Another in the "total population less than Wags". Haven't seen more than 20 or so with this back. They're on the edge of "carddom" as they're like other theatre cards, but these are on thicker stock, and may have been licensed/re-used later as advertising as they have a 12/31/1925 expiration date.

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps07f2471c.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps12a814f0.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps6792e629.jpg

All the ones I've seen are Series "D", but that sort of implies at least three other series exist ... whether or not they're baseball is a separate issue.

--
Mike

Runscott 01-01-2015 12:46 PM

It's a photo, not a card, but I wanted to play and it's my favorite one-of-one item. Back in 1913, if you had a choice of a T206 Wagner, or a photo that had hung on Honus' wall, it would have been a no-brainer...I think.

12x16 1913 Honus Wagner photo from his estate.

kdixon 01-01-2015 12:48 PM

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T213 Type 3 Zach Wheat with factory overprint.

White Borders 01-01-2015 01:02 PM

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N694 Risido

pkaufman 01-01-2015 01:33 PM

thanks Jeff P. !


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