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Leon 07-01-2014 07:45 AM

tough guy on the internet - Jeff Hall?
 
Does anyone know this guy, Jeff Hall? I want to make sure he isn't allowed on our board. He has definite anger issues. I had been informed by a few of our members that he had gone ballistic for no apparent reason. I emailed him asking about it and he went ballistic in an email to me. Seems like a nice guy :).


Jeff Hall
....
North Wilkesboro, NC 28659

Jeffrompa 07-01-2014 08:23 AM

Still lots of nice Jeff's in the world and on the board .

ooo-ribay 07-01-2014 09:47 AM

Probably a D**ger fan, to boot.

Tabe 07-01-2014 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffrompa (Post 1293126)
Still lots of nice Jeff's in the world and on the board .

Jury's still out on this, I think :)

thehoodedcoder 07-01-2014 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1293116)
Does anyone know this guy, Jeff Hall? I want to make sure he isn't allowed on our board. He has definite anger issues. I had been informed by a few of our members that he had gone ballistic for no apparent reason. I emailed him asking about it and he went ballistic in an email to me. Seems like a nice guy :).


Jeff Hall
....
North Wilkesboro, NC 28659


How does one stop someone from being on the board? There isn't one concrete thing you can go by to prevent it.

Lets look at the list:
  • Phone Number: Throw away phone or someone else's number.
  • Mailing Address: Fake or neighbor address
  • Ebay ID: New ebay ID or don't provide one or provide someone elses
  • Email Address: these are free and unrealiable as well or you can just go the paid route.
  • Paypal account: these are tied to emails. you can put any name on a personal account you want.
  • IP address: You can request this be changed or you can just unplug your modem for a week and let the dhcp lease expire. Vbulletin doesn't have the ability to harvest a mac address, obviously, so that is out as well, but even if it did you get could just get a second NIC card for 6 bucks.

Kevin

Leon 07-01-2014 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder (Post 1293255)
How does one stop someone from being on the board? There isn't one concrete thing you can go by to prevent it.

Lets look at the list:
  • Phone Number: Throw away phone or someone else's number.
  • Mailing Address: Fake or neighbor address
  • Ebay ID: New ebay ID or don't provide one or provide someone elses
  • Email Address: these are free and unrealiable as well or you can just go the paid route.
  • Paypal account: these are tied to emails. you can put any name on a personal account you want.
  • IP address: You can request this be changed or you can just unplug your modem for a week and let the dhcp lease expire. Vbulletin doesn't have the ability to harvest a mac address, obviously, so that is out as well, but even if it did you get could just get a second NIC card for 6 bucks.

Kevin


well, I might not be able to do anything but at least I don't have "idiot" next to my name, under my user id......how about hacking that If it's so easy?

vintagetoppsguy 07-01-2014 03:38 PM

I just laughed so hard, I cried :D

Leon 07-01-2014 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 1293262)
I just laughed so hard, I cried :D

Then he said "How does one stop someone from being on the board? There isn't one concrete thing you can go by to prevent it."

I banned him. Now he has no access. That is how it's done.

Peter_Spaeth 07-01-2014 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 1293262)
I just laughed so hard, I cried :D

It's contagious.

Jeffrompa 07-01-2014 04:26 PM

Im behaving Chris :rolleyes:

Wite3 07-01-2014 04:39 PM

OMG, Leon...that was awesome!

Joshua

pariah1107 07-01-2014 04:43 PM

Jeff Hall, "the most recognizable name in the game of amateur softball", according to this lawsuit:

http://www.ncbusinesscourt.net/opini...12_NCBC_62.pdf

I've really missed a lot in the fast paced world of slow pitch softball :rolleyes: ... Or, it's an alias, Jeff Hall was also a neo-nazi killed by his son in Riverside, California (2010). You choose.

glynparson 07-01-2014 05:23 PM

It must be something in the water.
 
I had an Internet tough guy spamming all over my companies Facebook page today. I love the keyboard tough guys.

EvilKing00 07-01-2014 05:28 PM

Ip address and machine id are best way


Quote:

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder (Post 1293255)
How does one stop someone from being on the board? There isn't one concrete thing you can go by to prevent it.

Lets look at the list:
  • Phone Number: Throw away phone or someone else's number.
  • Mailing Address: Fake or neighbor address
  • Ebay ID: New ebay ID or don't provide one or provide someone elses
  • Email Address: these are free and unrealiable as well or you can just go the paid route.
  • Paypal account: these are tied to emails. you can put any name on a personal account you want.
  • IP address: You can request this be changed or you can just unplug your modem for a week and let the dhcp lease expire. Vbulletin doesn't have the ability to harvest a mac address, obviously, so that is out as well, but even if it did you get could just get a second NIC card for 6 bucks.

Kevin


HoggZilla 07-01-2014 05:30 PM

Simple
 
Handwriting analysis, duh!

E93 07-01-2014 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 1293148)
Probably a D**ger fan, to boot.

Don't make me angry. ;)
JimB

calvindog 07-01-2014 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leon (Post 1293258)
well, i might not be able to do anything but at least i don't have "idiot" next to my name, under my user id......how about hacking that if it's so easy?

lololololololololololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ZachS 07-01-2014 06:12 PM

Did Kevin get banned for that post alone or was there something more going on with this Jeff Hall thing?

4815162342 07-01-2014 06:45 PM

Hilarious thread!

bigtrain 07-01-2014 06:53 PM

"the most recognizable name in the game of amateur softball" Wow! He is a legend. That's got to right up there with the most recognizable name in
the world of tiddlywinks.

Brian Van Horn 07-01-2014 07:00 PM

Is this a lost episode of "Seinfeld"?

frankbmd 07-01-2014 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigtrain (Post 1293324)
"the most recognizable name in the game of amateur softball" Wow! He is a legend. That's got to right up there with the most recognizable name in
the world of tiddlywinks.

Tom, watch out. Watch the videos first. Then decide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCTlwRRyQZE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67VumrieWm8

Live tiddlywinks gets my vote.:D

ibuysportsephemera 07-01-2014 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZachS (Post 1293305)
Did Kevin get banned for that post alone or was there something more going on with this Jeff Hall thing?

This thread might have helped Leon make his decision:

http://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=177211

Jeff

bobfreedman 07-01-2014 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibuysportsephemera (Post 1293328)
This thread might have helped Leon make his decision:

http://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=177211

Jeff

I was not going to say anything but I will for clarity.

I received a phone call last week from a person claiming to be "Jeff". He claimed to be interested in our software and, I started to give him a demo but his answers to my questions were vague and so bad that I knew immediately that something was wrong. I even asked him if he knew of a person Named Kevin Quinn, which he denied knowing him but ultimately I hung up on him when I asked what he sold and he replied "antiques and I go to yard sales" I then looked up his phone number from a previous time when he threatened to hack into our software (I have the emails where he threatened it).

He later went on the board and said "Bob just did me a favor and confirmed on the phone that as an administrator of the simpleauctionsite script you can see the max bids.", which again was a lie. He has said on several occasions that he just wants to help with our security. So someone threatens to hack into my company, lies to me about who is and wants to help me??? The irony in this is just ridiculous. Their you have it, again I was not going to say anything but I wanted to fill in the blanks for everyone.

wolf441 07-01-2014 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1293258)
well, I might not be able to do anything but at least I don't have "idiot" next to my name, under my user id......how about hacking that If it's so easy?

I love it, Leon!! :D

You like apples?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmRe_fK7pbw#t=183

ullmandds 07-01-2014 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1293258)
well, I might not be able to do anything but at least I don't have "idiot" next to my name, under my user id......how about hacking that If it's so easy?

That's rich!

clydepepper 07-01-2014 08:03 PM

It's times like this, I find myself quoting great leaders of peace, for example.

"Can't we all just get along?"

gnaz01 07-01-2014 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1293258)
well, I might not be able to do anything but at least I don't have "idiot" next to my name, under my user id......how about hacking that If it's so easy?

I just snotted water out of my nose I laughed so hard!! Good going, LL!!!

Brian Van Horn 07-01-2014 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobfreedman (Post 1293341)
I was not going to say anything but I will for clarity.

I received a phone call last week from a person claiming to be "Jeff". He claimed to be interested in our software and, I started to give him a demo but his answers to my questions were vague and so bad that I knew immediately that something was wrong. I even asked him if he knew of a person Named Kevin Quinn, which he denied knowing him but ultimately I hung up on him when I asked what he sold and he replied "antiques and I go to yard sales" I then looked up his phone number from a previous time when he threatened to hack into our software (I have the emails where he threatened it).

He later went on the board and said "Bob just did me a favor and confirmed on the phone that as an administrator of the simpleauctionsite script you can see the max bids.", which again was a lie. He has said on several occasions that he just wants to help with our security. So someone threatens to hack into my company, lies to me about who is and wants to help me??? The irony in this is just ridiculous. Their you have it, again I was not going to say anything but I wanted to fill in the blanks for everyone.

Bob,

Thank you for the information.

ZachS 07-01-2014 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibuysportsephemera (Post 1293328)
This thread might have helped Leon make his decision:

http://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=177211

Jeff

Ah... well see sometimes I start out a little slow and need a push in the right direction. It all makes sense now. I was thinking "wow Leon usually lets people push things a little further than that" and I thought it was pretty dick-ish to ban him for that post.

Leon - sorry for thinking you were being dick-ish

ALR-bishop 07-01-2014 08:35 PM

Dickish
 
No, that is apparently his aunt

Kawika 07-01-2014 09:20 PM

Good one, Al. :)

irishdenny 07-01-2014 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 1293360)
No, that is apparently his aunt

Now that's Really Funny... :D

gregr2 07-02-2014 07:22 AM

Great thread. I'm actually a bit surprised it took this long.

Leon 07-02-2014 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregr2 (Post 1293426)
Great thread. I'm actually a bit surprised it took this long.

Anyone can see a members public information under their profile and ID. Kevin had already been given a public warning several months ago (as anyone can see). It's clear I don't care for the way he acts. However, A moderator not necessarily "liking" a member is never a reason to oust them from the board. IF that were the case there would be a few others banned for that reason alone. But when Kevin continually made divisive comments AND then challenged me saying nothing could be done to prevent someone from being on the board, well, that was enough. You don't point a gun at cop and dare them to shoot. As was said, it is ok to question everything. It is ok to question how this forum is run, any auction house, myself or any other moderator, member or company. However, if you challenge someone you should expect the challenge to be met. Kevin thinks it's easy to hack everything on the internet, including this forum. I don't think so. Sure, someone can crawl in without being verified enough but that is a far cry from hacking. (imo) My goal to not ban folks remains. It really does take quite a bit to be banned. A lot of members think it should be done sooner or more often but that is not our (my) MO on the board.

I Only Smoke 4 the Cards 07-02-2014 08:02 AM

I love internet tough guys they are the funnest people to mock.

bigtrain 07-02-2014 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1293327)
Tom, watch out. Watch the videos first. Then decide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCTlwRRyQZE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67VumrieWm8

Live tiddlywinks gets my vote.:D

Very impressive batting practice home runs by
the big guy. The anger issues might be explained
by PEDs. I still will not believe that anyone can hit
a softball 500 feet.

steve B 07-02-2014 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigtrain (Post 1293461)
Very impressive batting practice home runs by
the big guy. The anger issues might be explained
by PEDs. I still will not believe that anyone can hit
a softball 500 feet.

I'd believe it.

Composite/aluminum bat, and some of those yellow softballs are sort of like range balls in golf. Wound tight so they're extra lively. The right spin to get some lift while it's flying which works better with a bigger ball.

Heck, I have very little power and hit a limited flight ball 200+ in modified pitch. (Only once, and I'm so slow it was only a triple :mad: And played with an ex college guy who hit one 300+ slow pitch.

Someone with power and the advantages of the springy bat and lively ball going over 500 ? Yeah, I totally buy it. But it's not all that impressive.

Steve B

2dueces 07-02-2014 12:04 PM

I played on traveling tourney teams in my youth.
Before the new bats I have seen balls hit 500+ ft.
Can't imagine how far they will go now.

Just look up some of the old timers from Jerry's Catering, Howards Furniture and Steele Sporting goods.

Moose Haas put on hitting displays in the Astrodome.

I played with Scott Vergus (sp). He played lineman for the Bills and Colts.
6'7" 275 and ran like a deer. I saw him hit a ball over the fence, over the path over the infield of the next field and into the outfield. We walked it off after and it was 525 ft.

I'm glad I played the outfield as I never wanted to be that close when they pounded a ball that hard. It's truly amazing what pro's can do with a Red dot softball.

Leon 07-02-2014 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2dueces (Post 1293501)
I played on traveling tourney teams in my youth.
Before the new bats I have seen balls hit 500+ ft.
Can't imagine how far they will go now.

Just look up some of the old timers from Jerry's Catering, Howards Furniture and Steele Sporting goods.

Moose Haas put on hitting displays in the Astrodome.

I played with Scott Vergus (sp). He played lineman for the Bills and Colts.
6'7" 275 and ran like a deer. I saw him hit a ball over the fence, over the path over the infield of the next field and into the outfield. We walked it off after and it was 525 ft.

I'm glad I played the outfield as I never wanted to be that close when they pounded a ball that hard. It's truly amazing what pro's can do with a Red dot softball.

You guys are absolutely correct. I play in a fairly competitive senior league now. Our composite bats rock!! I am sure I can hit about 350 on a good day and I am weak, all things considered. I know I have hit a few that far in the last few seasons. I don't think 500 ft is any stretch at all.

Jantz 07-02-2014 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve B (Post 1293496)
I'd believe it.

Me too.

When I was a kid, the local railroad would rent the city park for a day in the summer and all the railroad employees and their families could use the park/swimming pool/ball fields/bbq areas for free.

The different departments of the railroad would assemble teams and have a softball tournament. My Dad was a player (switch hitter) for one of those teams and before his first at-bat he stepped up to the stands and made a courtesy call to the spectators that they might want to move their vehicles before one of them got damaged by a softball. The spectators all laughed. A few pitches later he cranked one over the fence and into a vehicle.

On his second at-bat, no one was laughing. They were all scrambling to move their vehicles.

Almost forgot....I miss Kevin already!


Jantz

ksfarmboy 07-02-2014 02:03 PM

Leon, did you put idiot next to his name or did he do that to himself?

I Only Smoke 4 the Cards 07-02-2014 02:06 PM

The bats can make anyone a power guy. The league my dad used to play in had a limit on HRs. After the limit was reached the HRs were scored as puts.


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Leon 07-02-2014 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ksfarmboy (Post 1293548)
Leon, did you put idiot next to his name or did he do that to himself?

I did it. If he is such a great hacker it should have been no problem for him to remove it.

Leon 07-02-2014 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards (Post 1293552)
The bats can make anyone a power guy. The league my dad used to play in had a limit on HRs. After the limit was reached the HRs were scored as puts.


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We do a "1 up" basis for home runs. Each team can hit one then then other team has to hit one before they can hit another. If they do hit one, and the other team hasn't, then it is counted as a walk. I have had a few 2 HR games this season.....

ksfarmboy 07-02-2014 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1293559)
I did it. If he is such a great hacker it should have been no problem for him to remove it.


That's what I thought but wanted to make sure. :)

2dueces 07-02-2014 03:33 PM

We couldn't compete with the likes of Steele or Howards in a closed park. Back in those days we played for cash prizes, no iron. After losing to one of them in the championship we challeged them, our 2nd place money + cash against their first place money. We chose the park. We chose an open diamond. Our base hitting team could score anywhere and their long, long balls were just long fly outs without fences. We had homerun hitters too, but not all of us. One of my many memories traveling with the team.

Bpm0014 07-02-2014 03:43 PM

Although hitting a softball 500 feet is kind of rare, it is definitely possible. I play ultra competitive softball (I won my first World Series ring last year!) and guys regularly hit balls 400/450 and even 500 feet. Jeff Hall is a stud offensively, but that's about it.

DHogan 07-02-2014 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1293559)
I did it. If he is such a great hacker it should have been no problem for him to remove it.

lol

sreader3 07-02-2014 05:53 PM

Isn't the proper term thehoodedidiot?


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