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drazz5 06-13-2014 04:42 PM

Horizontal t206 Poses bring premium?
 
I recently picked up a horizontal t206 (Jack Powell) for a decent price. I had always assumed than since only a few cards come in horizontal poses, that they would bring some type of premium, but judging by the price I paid for the Powell, this doesn't seem to necessarily be true.

So I guess my question to you guys is, do these horizontal t206 cards actually bring any type of premium at all?

Thanks

arc2q 06-13-2014 06:34 PM

I have heard this said before but never actually noticed a difference.

GregMitch34 06-13-2014 06:42 PM

See Pelty, Pattee and a few others...

GoldenAge50s 06-13-2014 06:53 PM

Definitely a premium on some of them, esp Pelty & Pattee.

clydepepper 06-13-2014 07:03 PM

Queston about premiums on non-horizontal T206s
 
Is 48.9% premium too high to pay for a PSA-6 ?

CMIZ5290 06-13-2014 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clydepepper (Post 1287418)
Is 48.9% premium too high to pay for a PSA-6 ?

Raymond- depends on the player and the strength of the card....

clydepepper 06-13-2014 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1287419)
Raymond- depends on the player and the strength of the card....

Minor Leaguer Helm

the 'stache 06-13-2014 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clydepepper (Post 1287422)
Minor Leaguer Helm

J. Ross Helm is a Southern Leaguer, so yes, there is going to be a substantial premium on his cards.

the 'stache 06-13-2014 08:11 PM

For future reference, Raymond:

Southern Leaguers

clydepepper 06-13-2014 08:33 PM

Thanks for the info John, but, actually...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the 'stache (Post 1287445)
For future reference, Raymond:

Southern Leaguers

Since the card manufacturers got his name wrong (Helms not Helm) - I thought he may have been mistakenly tagged as a Southern Leaguer, even thought the 'Columbus' on the card references the Columbus (GA) Foxes of the South Atlantic League, but then I noticed that he played for two teams in the Southern Association in 1908 and, even though that was a separate entity from the actual Southern League that followed, I guess that is close enough, huh? - and I accept you knowledgeable interpretation of the T206 designation.

the 'stache 06-13-2014 09:23 PM

Who's John?

clydepepper 06-13-2014 09:27 PM

Ooop!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the 'stache (Post 1287467)
Who's John?

I meant Bill...sorry 'bout that - no disrespect

the 'stache 06-13-2014 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clydepepper (Post 1287468)
I meant Bill...sorry 'bout that - no disrespect

Oh, no, Raymond, it's ok. :D I didn't think you were being disrespectful. I just thought I was losing my mind there for a second. I've been going on about 4 hours of sleep the last two days, and I thought I was missing something.

We're cool. ;)

And yes, it does appear that the card has been mislabeled. I'll have to check some other sites to see where this card is listed. But that research will have to wait until my eyes aren't crossing.

Have a great weekend.

Bocabirdman 06-14-2014 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the 'stache (Post 1287470)
Oh, no, Raymond, it's ok. :D I didn't think you were being disrespectful. I just thought I was losing my mind there for a second. I've been going on about 4 hours of sleep the last two days, and I thought I was missing something.

We're cool. ;)

And yes, it does appear that the card has been mislabeled. I'll have to check some other sites to see where this card is listed. But that research will have to wait until my eyes aren't crossing.

Have a great weekend.

You are not alone Bill (John). I was scurrying to check my mental image file for a horizontal and kept coming up with a vertical image for Helm. I missed the "hi-jack" post.:D

clydepepper 06-14-2014 05:03 AM

My Apologies, Mike
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bocabirdman (Post 1287504)
You are not alone Bill (John). I was scurrying to check my mental image file for a horizontal and kept coming up with a vertical image for Helm. I missed the "hi-jack" post.:D

Premium pricing was the tie-in - I thought.

Eric72 06-14-2014 05:09 AM

Don't think Helm is a horizontal. From what I recall, there are six T206 cards in that category:

Birmingham
Mullin (throwing)
Murphy (throwing)
Pattee
Pelty
Powell

Best regards,

Eric

Bocabirdman 06-14-2014 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clydepepper (Post 1287507)
Premium pricing was the tie-in - I thought.

No worries, Raymond. I was commenting on my own lack of observational skills this morning, pre-coffee.:D

irishdenny 06-14-2014 04:54 PM

Now I'm not sure?

To my knowledge, there isn't a Horizontal T206 of a Southern Leaguer!
And I believe that the Pelty was either being Horded or maybe even scarce enough to have caused a price increase... not sure about the Pattee?

I do think some of the more advances T206 Collector's may have a little more insight into the Pelty and the Pattee...

slipk1068 06-14-2014 05:15 PM

Pelty is slightly higher demand because it is a horizontal. It is also popular because there are quite a few collectors who collect Jewish players.

It is also somewhat scarcer than most commons because the card was was only released early in the print run. It only exists in the 150 subjects series.

The somewhat larger demand and slightly less supply doesn't explain the huge premiums the card commands. It is popular with the hoarders for sure.

the 'stache 06-15-2014 05:08 AM

If I recall correctly, the Pattee is frequently listed as one of the best looking cards in the white borders set.

tedzan 06-15-2014 08:33 AM

Six T206 horizontal cards
 
http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/d...zontalt206.jpg




T-Rex TED
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Sean 06-15-2014 07:34 PM

Nice display Ted. Now shall we restart the debate about whether or not Dunn should be considered horizontal? :D

frankbmd 06-16-2014 09:43 AM

Dunn is vertical.:D:D:D

Paul S 06-16-2014 09:51 AM

His pose supine although the card is vertical:D


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