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eastonfalcon19 05-19-2014 10:36 PM

Crawford Old Mill t-206
 
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This card looks like a fake to me..Let me know what you guys think. Thank you.

ullmandds 05-19-2014 10:54 PM

bad fake

atx840 05-19-2014 11:36 PM

I wonder if the back ad printing plate/process for these fakes could be used to "multi strike" legit cards and get slabbed. :(

steve B 05-20-2014 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by atx840 (Post 1278060)
I wonder if the back ad printing plate/process for these fakes could be used to "multi strike" legit cards and get slabbed. :(

I believe the size of the back is different.

Running one card through a press would be possible. Just affix the card to one of the blank sheets in the right spot. There's always a chance it would get mangled, but the payoff might be worth it.
Matching the color or the intensity of the black would be the hard part.

Steve B

Leon 05-20-2014 07:40 AM

So maybe that his how this was done?

http://i.imgur.com/vOj6n19.gif

veleno45 05-20-2014 08:12 AM

Please help me out with fakes...
 
What are you looking at to make the fake call? I do not have the experience that most here do so please elaborate on what you are seeing.

ullmandds 05-20-2014 08:30 AM

I would think that it would be a lot easier to falsify double triple strike backs... As the alignment does not have to be perfect

ullmandds 05-20-2014 08:31 AM

Type font/color is awful...thats all the evidence i need

Runscott 05-20-2014 09:41 AM

For an aged T206 reprint, the first thing I would normally notice with a quick glance would be gloss or lack of border on the front, but for this one it's the dark lettering and bad font - doesn't match the card. There are so many ways to create a realistic-looking forgery from a hi-def image, that are easier than trying to age and manipulate a reprint. I don't get why they do it this way.

I plan to create some tobacco fantasy card to bring to the National as advertising, so you'll see what I mean.

hshrimps 05-20-2014 10:29 AM

Isn't that a blue Old Mill back?

sb1 05-20-2014 12:52 PM

The card is a reprint rebacked with a real Old Mill back.

eastonfalcon19 05-20-2014 01:10 PM

Thank you guys for taking a look at the card. I knew it was reprint but I didn't know the back was real. Why would somebody put a reprint on a real back?

ullmandds 05-20-2014 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by eastonfalcon19 (Post 1278232)
Thank you guys for taking a look at the card. I knew it was reprint but I didn't know the back was real. Why would somebody put a reprint on a real back?

stupidity? it's probably the back from a common front...with the rationale being a crawford w/old mill back would be worth a lot more.

funny thing is a lot of t206 heads think old mills are actually tough(according to nonsensical pop reports)...so the pop of the destroyed old mill may have been a relatively tough combo...ie low pop card...some might surmise.

eastonfalcon19 05-20-2014 01:16 PM

That is pretty stupid...does a card like this have any value because of the back or is it just a worthless piece of cardboard?

ullmandds 05-20-2014 01:20 PM

I suppose theoretically if the back could be liberated from the bogus front...and if it were reunited to it's former front...it would have some value...not much...but some as an authentic card.

eastonfalcon19 05-20-2014 01:23 PM

How does a process like that work and how could I find the original card. Sorry for all of the questions not a big card collector.

ullmandds 05-20-2014 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by eastonfalcon19 (Post 1278241)
How does a process like that work and how could I find the original card. Sorry for all of the questions not a big card collector.

unless you find the "doctor" and he/she admits to the wrong doing...and just happens to still have the front...and offers it to you...you won't find it!

ullmandds 05-20-2014 01:29 PM

best bet is to chalk it off as a loss...maybe soak the card to separate the 2...then you can sell the crawford as a rare...blank backed proof for thousands!


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