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Vintagevault13 04-29-2014 03:36 PM
BCCG grading question
 
I just saw a card on eBay that I am interested in that has been graded by BCCG. It was graded a 6. I understand the difference between BCCG and the other Beckett grading services and realize that a BCCG 6 is not nearly the same as a PSA or SGC 6. I am not really concerned about the card's grade. My real question is can I feel safe that the card is authentic and unaltered if it received the grade?

Thanks

Ed

KCRfan1 04-29-2014 08:43 PM
No. I would look for a card graded by PSA or SGC, if graded is what you are wanting.

Leon 04-29-2014 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Vintagevault13 (Post 1270598)
I just saw a card on eBay that I am interested in that has been graded by BCCG. It was graded a 6. I understand the difference between BCCG and the other Beckett grading services and realize that a BCCG 6 is not nearly the same as a PSA or SGC 6. I am not really concerned about the card's grade. My real question is can I feel safe that the card is authentic and unaltered if it received the grade?

Thanks

Ed
Yes, you can feel safe. The grading numbers make no sense, compared to any other legit company, but the cards should be real and unaltered.

Vintagevault13 04-30-2014 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1270742)
Yes, you can feel safe. The grading numbers make no sense, compared to any other legit company, but the cards should be real and unaltered.
Thanks Lepn.

RobertGT 04-30-2014 12:11 PM
I agree, card should be authentic as Beckett is decent at filtering out fakes and trimmed cards.

But, as I am sure you are aware, with a BCCC 6 you are likely looking at multiple creases or some other major damage on the card. I wouldn't pay more than the equivalent of PSA/SGC 1-2.

Good luck.

ksfarmboy 04-30-2014 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RobertGT (Post 1270924)
I agree, card should be authentic as Beckett is decent at filtering out fakes and trimmed cards.

But, as I am sure you are aware, with a BCCC 6 you are likely looking at multiple creases or some other major damage on the card. I wouldn't pay more than the equivalent of PSA/SGC 1-2.

Good luck.
I guess I must have gotten the toughest BCCC grader out there. Check these out. There's no creases and no damage on any of them. The Sayers looks so much better in person. The smudges are on my scanner.

KCRfan1 04-30-2014 07:02 PM
Ed, I feel like I owe you and explanation for the answer that I gave to your question. On more than a couple of times I have seen cards graded by BCCG that had been trimmed. Rather than grading the cards with an " A ", the cards recieved a numerical grade. Personally, I am not comfortable with them as a grading company. Just my opinion though.

RobertGT 04-30-2014 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ksfarmboy (Post 1271054)
I guess I must have gotten the toughest BCCC grader out there. Check these out. There's no creases and no damage on any of them. The Sayers looks so much better in person. The smudges are on my scanner.
Clint,
You are confusing BCCG with BVG (which are the cards you posted). They are NOT the same. BVG and BGS are pretty comparable grade-wise to PSA and SGC. BCCG, uh, just looks like this:

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Ebay seller actually wants $83 for the above card, by the way.
This is a perfect example of why this whole BGS-BVG-BCCG mess is just a nightmare for the hobby.

ksfarmboy 04-30-2014 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RobertGT (Post 1271075)
Clint,
You are confusing BCCG with BVG (which are the cards you posted). They are NOT the same. BVG and BGS are pretty comparable grade-wise to PSA and SGC. BCCG, uh, just looks like this:

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Ebay seller actually wants $83 for the above card, by the way.
This is a perfect example of why this whole BGS-BVG-BCCG mess is just a
nightmare for the hobby.

I guess I was. I thought they were all the same. You can tell I don't get things graded. These and a handful of others are the only ones I've ever sent in. That Bradshaw looks horrible.

bnorth 05-01-2014 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by KCRfan1 (Post 1271067)
Ed, I feel like I owe you and explanation for the answer that I gave to your question. On more than a couple of times I have seen cards graded by BCCG that had been trimmed. Rather than grading the cards with an " A ", the cards recieved a numerical grade. Personally, I am not comfortable with them as a grading company. Just my opinion though.
It is not just BCCG that you have to watch for trimmed cards. BVG & BGS are just as bad for this problem.

KCRfan1 05-01-2014 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 1271152)
It is not just BCCG that you have to watch for trimmed cards. BVG & BGS are just as bad for this problem.
You're right. There is a 1973 Munson graded by BVG that is trimmed on the sides for sale on ebay right now.

Vintagevault13 05-01-2014 12:13 PM
Thanks all. Looks like it is safer (though not 100%) to stick with the Big 2 TPG's when looking at higher $ cards.


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gs1833 05-01-2014 02:11 PM
With bccg, look at the condition grade name, rather than the number. This Bradshaw is a "6 - good" which makes it roughly comparable to a psa/bvg 2 (good) rather than a psa/bgs 6.


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