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CarltonHendricks 04-07-2014 03:55 PM

c1896 cabinet photo of bicycle race broadside…Show your vintage photos of broadsides!
 
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Broadside posters that advertise athletic events are one of my favorite areas of collecting. Rarely do I see period photos showing them hung up actually in use ….when I do it’s exciting…I picked this one up a couple weeks ago on eBay for the whopping price of $16.00 plus $4.00 shipping…Sure would like to come across a bicycle race broadside like that sometime…

I looked into the info on the broadside a little and found a NY times reference on the race…Also the name Sanger is on the broadside…W.C. Sanger was apparently a big name racer…I found quite a few references to him on the net..


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khkco4bls 04-07-2014 04:37 PM

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Here is one i own.1880s young ladies baseball club

Bumpus Jones 04-07-2014 04:46 PM

Nice work Carlton!

CarltonHendricks 04-07-2014 05:02 PM

Sorry for confusion
 
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Originally Posted by khkco4bls (Post 1263451)
Here is one i own.1880s young ladies baseball club

Hey Kevin...I apolgize for that...the verbage of the title was confusing...when I said:

"c1896 cabinet photo of bicycle race broadside…Let’s see your photos of broadsides!"

I meant antique/vintage photos that show broadsides...so I changed it for clarity to:

"...Show your vintage photos of broadsides!"

Nevertheless I always like seeing antique/vintage broadsides so thanks for posting...that's an interesting one!

khkco4bls 04-07-2014 05:07 PM

My bad..

ksfarmboy 04-07-2014 06:34 PM

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Can't help with the broadside part but here is a photo that has Sanger in it.

CarltonHendricks 04-07-2014 07:26 PM

Wow
 
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Originally Posted by ksfarmboy (Post 1263490)
Can't help with the broadside part but here is a photo that has Sanger in it.

What the heck!!!...wow that's incredible!

Exhibitman 04-08-2014 01:48 PM

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...%20MSG%201.JPG

Madison Square Garden, the Mecca of boxing, This mailing card-backed picture of the second [1890-1925] stadium of that name caught my eye because of the lower corner of the building, which plainly shows advertising for the Jim Corbett-Charlie McCoy bout on August 30, 1900. Here is a close-up.

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...%20MSG%202.JPG

slidekellyslide 04-08-2014 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1263771)
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...%20MSG%201.JPG

Madison Square Garden, the Mecca of boxing, This mailing card-backed picture of the second [1890-1925] stadium of that name caught my eye because of the lower corner of the building, which plainly shows advertising for the Jim Corbett-Charlie McCoy bout on August 30, 1900. Here is a close-up.

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...%20MSG%202.JPG

Very cool...I've probably had a few of those over the years and never noticed.

steve B 04-08-2014 08:01 PM

Eddie Bald was also a famous racer. He went on as so many 1890's bicycle racers did to racing cars. Others who changed sports later went into some newfangled thing called "aeroplanes" Where the appearance money was often better than the already crazy pay for bicycle or car racers. :D

Here's an article about a guy who became a pro by beating Bald. Starting contract of 10K, plus 1500 in endorsements!

http://www.m-bike.org/blog/tags/eddie-bald/

I'd also love to find a cycling broadside, they're probably tougher than baseball ones.

Very cool picture.

Steve B

1880nonsports 04-08-2014 10:37 PM

one of the biggest problems
 
is that generally they were too large to glue into albums and lacked graphic elements that would broaden the base of their desirability. A few should survive as part of family archive collections.
Super group photo. Bicycling was quite popular around the turn of the century. Major Taylor comes to mind. I'm probably mistaken as I'm old with CRS but I believe for a year or two he was the highest paid athlete in any sport. Probably open to interpretation or just wrong and no time to look :-) In general my experience is that aren't a lot of bicycle collectors and that they tend to be more fixed in terms of what they collect. Cheap too! I have some pins and sadly sold my Newsboy of Sanger. I have another Newsboy bicycle rider but off hand don't remember which one, a few smalls, and a few tintypes. One of my holy grails is to get a bonecrusher or other early form. Of course I run across them as often as the pillbox hat and fingerless glove I'm looking to display with my "orbs". Sorry to be off topic as usual. MAYBE SOMEONE COULD START A CYCLING THREAD - just for me! Sorry I have no advertising with bicycle broadsides.

CarltonHendricks 04-10-2014 12:03 AM

Thanks
 
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Originally Posted by steve B (Post 1263956)
Eddie Bald was also a famous racer. He went on as so many 1890's bicycle racers did to racing cars. Others who changed sports later went into some newfangled thing called "aeroplanes" Where the appearance money was often better than the already crazy pay for bicycle or car racers. :D

Here's an article about a guy who became a pro by beating Bald. Starting contract of 10K, plus 1500 in endorsements!

http://www.m-bike.org/blog/tags/eddie-bald/

I'd also love to find a cycling broadside, they're probably tougher than baseball ones.

Very cool picture.

Steve B

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Steve, Thanks...It was hard to make out but you gave me enough insight to determine the name left of Sanger is Bald...it appears the race wasn't just for some local riders, like I thought when I bought the photo...but was on a national level...

http://www.sportsantiques.com/2011_nat_carlton_buys.htm
Very good story in the link you provided...Coincidently at the 2011 National I bought a large advertising photo for "The White" brand bicycle (or perhaps tires) featuring Tom Cooper....he died in a car wreck in Central Park New York City...It's been a while since I researched him but as I recall he was racing someone when it happened...very early A.M...like after a night out on the town I think it was...


<img src="http://www.sportsantiques.com/CarltonsPickUps9_11/PICT2425_900x1200.jpg"/>
16" tall x 13 1/2" wide
TOM COOPER 1890's World Champion Bicycle Racer
1874-1906

Later switched to auto racing, teamed up with Barney Oldfield before forming partership with Henry Ford. Killed in off track auto accident in New York's Central Park November 16, 1906

<img src="http://www.sportsantiques.com/BicyclePostGrVal5_13_06/close.jpg"/>
Aprox. 40" x 30"

http://www.sportsantiques.com/whatsnewarchivepage.htm
Steve, you mentioned you'd love to find a cycling broadside...check out this one above I saw at a show in 2006...It was bought at the show by high profile dealer Peter Sidlow who I've seen around at shows the last 25 years....saw him once on pickers...you can read more about the poster at the bottom of the page in the link above.

steve B 04-10-2014 10:02 AM

That's a really great one.

The closest I have is this

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...pictureid=3871

The thing on the left is a thin paper poster about 8 1/2 x11 showing German Alonso and Julio Capdepont who were apparently sponsored by Bianchi. They won the Uruguayan national championship in "inseparable pairs" which I think was a two person team time trial, in 1925. The other stuff is all Capdeponts. A photo, his racing license, and a few medals including the national champion medal.

What's a bit sad is that I got it all on Ebay from a seller in Uruguay, All individually, and for roughly the price of a nice lunch including the shipping.

Cycling was huge at the time. There were a couple competing top level circuits, both pro and amateur, often with little difference in the quality of competition. There were some regularly scheduled meets for the pros, and in between a lot of local races for the amateurs. The pro races usually had a full day of amateur racing the day before. The more local amateur races would hire pros to do special events like Balds record attempt, or a special head to head race. Top pros made very good money in appearance fees.

Steve B

Jaybird 04-10-2014 02:19 PM

Not a broadside, but a banner
 
http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/...psa811fa68.jpghttp://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3d097592.png

CarltonHendricks 04-10-2014 05:01 PM

cool
 
Sweet!...California baseball...or at least left coast...at someplace named Crutes Park...

Jaybird 04-10-2014 08:31 PM

Chutes Park in Los Angeles was an amusement park that had a ballfield attached. First ballpark in Los Angeles for the PCL.

slidekellyslide 04-10-2014 09:34 PM

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Chutes Park in Los Angeles was an amusement park that had a ballfield attached. First ballpark in Los Angeles for the PCL.

SHOOT THE CHUTES!!! A very popular amusement ride from the 1890s to early 1910s. Chris Von der Ahe the owner of the St Louis Browns (NL) installed a Shoot The Chutes ride in the outfield at Sportsman's Park.

CarltonHendricks 04-11-2014 05:15 AM

neat collage
 
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Originally Posted by steve B (Post 1264487)
That's a really great one.

The closest I have is this

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...pictureid=3871

The thing on the left is a thin paper poster about 8 1/2 x11 showing German Alonso and Julio Capdepont who were apparently sponsored by Bianchi. They won the Uruguayan national championship in "inseparable pairs" which I think was a two person team time trial, in 1925. The other stuff is all Capdeponts. A photo, his racing license, and a few medals including the national champion medal.

What's a bit sad is that I got it all on Ebay from a seller in Uruguay, All individually, and for roughly the price of a nice lunch including the shipping.

Cycling was huge at the time. There were a couple competing top level circuits, both pro and amateur, often with little difference in the quality of competition. There were some regularly scheduled meets for the pros, and in between a lot of local races for the amateurs. The pro races usually had a full day of amateur racing the day before. The more local amateur races would hire pros to do special events like Balds record attempt, or a special head to head race. Top pros made very good money in appearance fees.

Steve B

http://www.sportsantiques.com/pg5brimstory.htm
Neat collage Steve...Since you like bike stuff take a look below at a generic c1920 26" tall Johnson and Johnson advertising display or kidney plaster I got at the 2011 Brimfield, link above to story

<img src="http://www.sportsantiques.com/BrimfieldMay2011/KidneyPlaster75/KidneyPlasterSign_946x853.jpg"/>


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