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the 'stache 01-11-2014 02:43 AM

Ok, type collectors, wow me with your Texas Tommy E224s
 
As I have begun working my way through older issues of Old Cardboard, I am finding articles about sets that I know little to nothing about, and my imagination is captured all over again. In the spring 2006 issue, there is an article about the E224s, known as the Texas Tommy set. These little beauties have one hell of a checklist across their two "types". The fifty-one card "type 1" set includes Walter Johnson, Ty Cobb, Christy Mathewson, Hal Chase, Tris Speaker, Honus Wagner, Nap Lajoie, Ed Walsh, Zach Wheat and "Shoeless" Joe Jackson, among others. The fifteen card blank back "type 2" set includes Rube Marquard, Smoky Joe Wood and Harry Hooper.

I know these things are incredibly rare, but I'm betting that some of our type collectors have a few of these between them. So, if you do, please share your cards, and if you feel comfortable in doing so, the stories on how you acquired them.

I'm most curious about the Jackson card. As far as sheer scarcity is concerned, where does this fall within the small number of cards issued during his career?

Leon 01-11-2014 09:59 AM

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They are scarce.....

Paul S 01-11-2014 10:08 AM

Trucker Boy?

Leon 01-11-2014 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul S (Post 1226431)
Trucker Boy?

No, there were 5 in that group (1 was uncatalogued). I already had a Johnson so sold them or traded them all. Then I traded my WOJO in a big trade and replaced it with the Mack. The Mack is fairly low grade but HOF'ers are tough and I do like the portrait pose..

EGreenwood 01-11-2014 11:40 AM

I would love to pick up the Stanage for my type collection - if it ever comes up. I take it even a beater would set me back quite a bit.

Stonepony 01-11-2014 05:58 PM

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uffda51 01-11-2014 06:37 PM

Two Tommys, but mine no longer.
 
http://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51.../Tex%20Tom.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51...2Snodgrass.jpg

MMarvelli 01-11-2014 06:54 PM

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the 'stache 01-12-2014 02:57 AM

Wow, they really are scarce. Beautiful cards, guys. I'm going to be actively watching for these to come up now.

I did have a question about them. I'm wondering why the majority of the type 1s have a full background image (the park, the skyline, etc), yet a few of them, the Shoeless Joe included, do not. It's as if he were cut out of a larger picture, and the rest of the "background" is blank.

Vintagecatcher 01-12-2014 05:44 AM

Great Archer
 
Dave,


Thanks for sharing the Archer. Nice card. One I have never seen before.

I have, however, seen a beat up Chief Meyers Texas Tommy previously.


Patrick

Bridwell 01-13-2014 09:10 PM

Texas Tommy
 
I bought a Harry Lord in REA. It was probably Bruce's at one time. It is now in a SGC 30 holder.

ValKehl 01-14-2014 11:55 AM

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My only E224 is in poor condition. But, it is special to me because I obtained it from Walter Johnson's grandson many years ago. Thanks again Hank!
Val

4815162342 01-14-2014 11:59 AM

Val, that is a fantastic card. Thanks for sharing.

Hankphenom 01-14-2014 02:47 PM

It couldn't be in a better place, Val.

the 'stache 01-14-2014 11:44 PM

Val, that's a great card. Thanks for sharing it!

ValKehl 01-15-2014 04:19 PM

Daryl, Hank, & Bill - Many thanks for your kind words!
Best,
Val

yanksfan09 01-15-2014 06:36 PM

Amazing cards everyone. What a beautiful set.

Leon 01-16-2014 09:11 PM

Note how many E224-2s are shown. They are really scarce...

http://luckeycards.com/pe224type2hooper.jpg

the 'stache 01-16-2014 10:36 PM

Leon, do you or any of the other E224 owners have an explanation or educated guess as to why a few of the cards in the set have no backgrounds? Typically, when I've seen cards with large areas "airbrushed out", so to speak, it's been because a player depicted did not authorize the use of their likeness in that particular product. Or, another company held exclusive rights to the player.

Here's the Shoeless Joe Jackson type-1 (image from Beckett):

http://img.beckett.com/images/items_...3093/front.jpg

According to the article in Old Cardboard (issue #7), only Jackson, Jack Coombs and Tris Speaker exhibit this anomaly from the fifty-one known issued cards in the type-1 set. In fifteen card type-2 set, Walter Johnson, Rube Marquard and Honus Wagner (and possibly Connie Mack--no picture of the card was available for the publication, and I cannot find one on Google) exhibit this same lack of a background.

If it were for artistic reasons, one would almost certainly expect to see more than three out of over fifty examples depicted in this manner.

T206Collector 01-16-2014 11:10 PM

The coolest thing about that Hooper is the autograph!

Leon 01-18-2014 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by T206Collector (Post 1228854)
The coolest thing about that Hooper is the autograph!

Thanks T206....and as you know it has a cert with it, not that that matters a lot. I got it as a type card I needed. The auto is a plus.

And Bill, no idea on the backgrounds. My friend John Esch's article on them is the most comprehensive article I am aware of, though VCBC probably had one or two also. The answer might be in one of those places or it might be blowin' in the wind :).


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