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STLCollector 11-26-2013 09:15 PM

3 mantle balls you be the judge.
 
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3 mantle baseballs, 3 different inscriptions.....I just dont know. I bought them a few years ago along with the 2 other mantle balls that I already sent to PSA and they came back good(they are for sale in the autograph thread). From the same local auction. I dont want to pay for to send these to PSA. Let me know what you all think!

joed25 11-26-2013 09:32 PM

All 3 are fake

thetruthisoutthere 11-27-2013 04:56 AM

Holy smokes!!!

Yikes!!!

1990's "Operation Bullpen" forgeries.

perezfan 11-27-2013 08:47 AM

Yup.... all bad/all from same source :(

Donscards 11-27-2013 08:53 AM

The autos are bad--but love your scanner. Don

STLCollector 11-27-2013 09:26 AM

Thanks guys. I thought the middle one had a chance but you confirmed what i didnt want to admit. Don-used my iphone and just took pics.

rschisler 11-27-2013 12:37 PM

Hi there, first time poster with a growing collection of hall of fame autographs. Going after Mantle scares me the most. I've studied a lot of the signatures, and I think I've identified some cues, but could you please educate me as to what exactly tips you off on these particular examples? To me A is cockeyed, C is pretty shaky all the way through... other things you look for? Thanks! I feel a little better looking for Dimaggio and Williams, but the tricks for Mantle elude me.

GrayGhost 11-27-2013 01:29 PM

Watch for the very pointed " banana M's" too. someone can illustrate that for you

STLCollector 11-27-2013 07:19 PM

Rschisler- interested in buying some known fakes for your official mantle studying lab?

Misha 11-27-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rschisler (Post 1211183)
Hi there, first time poster with a growing collection of hall of fame autographs. Going after Mantle scares me the most. I've studied a lot of the signatures, and I think I've identified some cues, but could you please educate me as to what exactly tips you off on these particular examples? To me A is cockeyed, C is pretty shaky all the way through... other things you look for? Thanks! I feel a little better looking for Dimaggio and Williams, but the tricks for Mantle elude me.

Me too. I have 2 single-signed balls that I know are real since he signed them in front of my eyes, but I can't see the identifiers that show the ones in these photos are fake. Want to learn more.

Interesting side story, Mantle was the first signing I ever went to, (was in 87 or 88 in Oakland according to my notes), and I handed him my 2 balls and a black sharpie. He said something like "you don't want to use a sharpie on a ball, a ballpoint pen is best". Seeing that I didn't have a ball pen, he borrowed a blue one from the person behind me in line and signed my 2 balls! So from then on I've learned to use different pens on different media. Great teacher and memory for me.

thetruthisoutthere 11-27-2013 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Misha (Post 1211402)
Me too. I have 2 single-signed balls that I know are real since he signed them in front of my eyes, but I can't see the identifiers that show the ones in these photos are fake. Want to learn more.

Interesting side story, Mantle was the first signing I ever went to, (was in 87 or 88 in Oakland according to my notes), and I handed him my 2 balls and a black sharpie. He said something like "you don't want to use a sharpie on a ball, a ballpoint pen is best". Seeing that I didn't have a ball pen, he borrowed a blue one from the person behind me in line and signed my 2 balls! So from then on I've learned to use different pens on different media. Great teacher and memory for me.

Michelle, if you work on training your eyes, you will eventually see the difference.

It doesn't happen overnight, and in my humble opinion, cannot be taught.

batsballsbases 11-28-2013 08:46 AM

As an example signed in front of me as I was one of the hosts for the Babe Ruth League.

thetruthisoutthere 11-28-2013 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by batsballsbases (Post 1211486)
As an example signed in front of me as I was one of the hosts for the Babe Ruth League.

Absolutely authentic.


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